From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:00:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <517D55C9.5070009@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1367164922.2194.182.camel@localhost>
Randy,
I don't want to continue rehashing the whole thread, as you and I are
essentially in agreement.
I do want to take this opportunity to highlight something we techies
overlook almost all the time:
We are human, and humans are not logical. We do not run on bash scripts
and don't have a CPU in our heads. Sheldon and Spock are fiction :-)
We humans run on emotion and the fuzzy-feel-good chemicals we squirt
into our brains, and techies are probably the worst equipped to spot
when it kicks in! And so:
On 28/04/2013 18:02, Randy Barlow wrote:
>> What we complain about here is basic low-level software changes that
>> > affect much more than just their own little universe, and will do it ON
>> > ALL LINUX MACHINES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
> Well, this will be the case if nobody forks these projects, or writes
> competing projects. As Dale has pointed out, there already is eudev. For
> systemd, you have OpenRC as an alternative. For Pulse, you can just use
> a different DE. I understand that you don't like the direction that
> these projects are going, and I'm not attempting to convince you to like
> or use them. I'm just trying to point out that there are viable
> alternatives.
It's easier to whinge, moan, complain and insist that devs rollback the
latest change than go through all the effort of running a fork. But it's
not always about what the dev wants. A good dev will listen to what his
users desire and incorporate that into his planning, this too seems to
be hardwired to a degree in our brains.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
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2013-04-18 19:32 [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 19:48 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 20:13 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:43 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:10 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 21:46 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:02 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-19 20:34 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:57 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Hartmut Figge
2013-04-18 21:29 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-04-18 20:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 20:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:28 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:14 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-21 19:46 ` [gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] " Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-21 21:20 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-22 3:13 ` Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-25 20:15 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 7:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2013-04-19 8:49 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 9:53 ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " the guard
2013-04-23 20:59 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-23 22:12 ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 2:46 ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 10:21 ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 20:55 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-13 13:32 ` Alex Schuster
2013-04-25 20:10 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-25 19:34 ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 10:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-24 21:19 ` Alecks Gates
2013-04-25 15:37 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20 9:34 ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-20 14:48 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 12:13 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20 15:41 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-20 19:34 ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-21 1:15 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-21 10:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 11:52 ` Mick
2013-04-21 14:24 ` Dale
2013-04-21 16:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 18:40 ` Dale
2013-04-21 21:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-22 0:36 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-04-20 21:05 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-04-25 15:48 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 17:31 ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-25 20:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26 3:10 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 19:17 ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-26 8:34 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 12:05 ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 12:56 ` Yohan Pereira
2013-04-26 13:26 ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 15:41 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 16:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 17:02 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 18:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 19:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 20:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 22:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27 0:57 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 20:21 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 20:38 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 22:28 ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-27 2:11 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27 6:37 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 18:03 ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 18:25 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 19:51 ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-27 1:10 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-27 15:55 ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-27 20:13 ` Dale
2013-04-28 0:24 ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28 9:59 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:02 ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28 17:00 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2013-04-28 16:11 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-28 17:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 17:33 ` Mick
2013-04-28 17:56 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 21:54 ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-25 19:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 8:50 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 13:59 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:37 ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26 22:37 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-19 13:43 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-19 15:28 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-04-19 16:16 ` Karl Lindén
2013-04-19 16:20 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 16:44 ` James
2013-04-19 16:55 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 20:36 ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-04-19 21:06 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-19 21:19 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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