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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:00:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <517D55C9.5070009@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1367164922.2194.182.camel@localhost>

Randy,

I don't want to continue rehashing the whole thread, as you and I are
essentially in agreement.

I do want to take this opportunity to highlight something we techies
overlook almost all the time:

We are human, and humans are not logical. We do not run on bash scripts
and don't have a CPU in our heads. Sheldon and Spock are fiction :-)

We humans run on emotion and the fuzzy-feel-good chemicals we squirt
into our brains, and techies are probably the worst equipped to spot
when it kicks in! And so:

On 28/04/2013 18:02, Randy Barlow wrote:
>> What we complain about here is basic low-level software changes that
>> > affect much more than just their own little universe, and will do it ON
>> > ALL LINUX MACHINES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
> Well, this will be the case if nobody forks these projects, or writes
> competing projects. As Dale has pointed out, there already is eudev. For
> systemd, you have OpenRC as an alternative. For Pulse, you can just use
> a different DE. I understand that you don't like the direction that
> these projects are going, and I'm not attempting to convince you to like
> or use them. I'm just trying to point out that there are viable
> alternatives.

It's easier to whinge, moan, complain and insist that devs rollback the
latest change than go through all the effort of running a fork. But it's
not always about what the dev wants. A good dev will listen to what his
users desire and incorporate that into his planning, this too seems to
be hardwired to a degree in our brains.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-28 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-18 19:32 [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 19:48 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 20:13     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:43       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:10         ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 21:46           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:02             ` Michael Mol
2013-04-19 20:34               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:57             ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:26   ` [gentoo-user] " Hartmut Figge
2013-04-18 21:29     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-04-18 20:31   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 20:47   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:28   ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:14     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-21 19:46     ` [gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] " Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-21 21:20       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-22  3:13         ` Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-25 20:15           ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  7:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2013-04-19  8:49   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  9:53     ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " the guard
2013-04-23 20:59     ` William Hubbs
2013-04-23 22:12       ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24  2:46         ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 10:21           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 20:55           ` William Hubbs
2013-05-13 13:32           ` Alex Schuster
2013-04-25 20:10         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-25 19:34           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 10:46       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-24 21:19         ` Alecks Gates
2013-04-25 15:37           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20  9:34   ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-20 14:48     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 12:13       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20 15:41     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-20 19:34       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-21  1:15       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-21 10:28         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 11:52           ` Mick
2013-04-21 14:24             ` Dale
2013-04-21 16:00               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 18:40                 ` Dale
2013-04-21 21:09                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-22  0:36           ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-04-20 21:05     ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-04-25 15:48     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 17:31       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-25 20:26         ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  3:10         ` [gentoo-user] " Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 19:17       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-26  8:34         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 12:05           ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 12:56             ` Yohan Pereira
2013-04-26 13:26               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 15:41             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 16:29               ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 17:02                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 18:38                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 19:09                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 20:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 22:14                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  0:57                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 20:21                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 20:38                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 22:28                       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-27  2:11                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  6:37                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 18:03               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 18:25                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 19:51                   ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-27  1:10                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-27 15:55                       ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-27 20:13                         ` Dale
2013-04-28  0:24                           ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28  9:59                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:02                               ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28 17:00                                 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2013-04-28 16:11                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-28 17:12                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 17:33                                   ` Mick
2013-04-28 17:56                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 21:54           ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-25 19:55       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26  8:50         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 13:59           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26 22:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-19 13:43 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-19 15:28   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-04-19 16:16     ` Karl Lindén
2013-04-19 16:20     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 16:44       ` James
2013-04-19 16:55         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 20:36   ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-04-19 21:06     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-19 21:19       ` Stefan G. Weichinger

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