From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9661381F3 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBB8FE0D9E; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BDBEE0C45 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id a12so2417729wgh.35 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:55:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=K2gmgeY598btBVVCcmEhXMM17oLinBoyIvbqhFj/EDI=; b=zLJ61eJbNhWCop9A2g2jPscMCjHDzyWCNc+xsD0xbOmSki63JQq7LCopKE9VXqFnSa D2EmVRWWkjjVz6bWeseIBjmg2DufPD8IxI2ItVWhcXGET2VUzdcV/n8IAiqbE98uuIRH 7YCIm5Bufz4ka1Ll0MXrRsYsJliZvKmc7I814AjCmN01W7Vx6DU+r4XqtwjvrGN5RinC xqeo+hrNBm/Poz6fiMuveRVbC33bTKjk8tKsFeCm0HK2h4rM0Hjt0euh3Y5YFmCHgBOV AT2RVp1dBeMXsKAPef4B+6LmVxOdlUX79NpAO7r1D68AyljUyZ8txgb53HDrq2cNCTt0 CfQg== X-Received: by 10.194.7.68 with SMTP id h4mr84847834wja.49.1367009747089; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (196-215-203-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.203.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q20sm6386604wiv.7.2013.04.26.13.55.44 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <517AE99B.8050306@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:54:51 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130413 Thunderbird/17.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion References: <517AE68A.6010701@gmail.com> <1367009197.198336309@f266.mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <1367009197.198336309@f266.mail.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: fcedcff2-86af-4949-9279-6d65a8544651 X-Archives-Hash: d6f99e5335a0f9727dfd2a8024f0a630 On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote: > > > > Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon : >> On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis wrote: >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp >>>> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are >>>> considered viable. I did see the >>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization. >>>> Our services are quite time sensitive. >>> >>> I think the classic method is to use net-misc/ntp >>> >>> See the extensive article at http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTP for >>> great examples and description. >>> >> >> Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-) >> >> I notice that no-one has yet mentioned that Windows does not do ntp, as >> Windows does not do time right, doesn't do timezones right and I >> strongly suspect can't even do dates right (this latter still unproven) >> >> Windows time servers need some magic Microsoft thing called ENTP which >> is in no way related to the ntp we all know and love >> > It refuses to adjust time if you have a wrong date. timezone is set in your system > I was thinking more along the lines of how Windows has no concept of UTC set in the hw clock and a local timezone, and how timezones are odd things like Harare/Pretoria instead of the official names like SAST GMT+2 as set by the scientific timekeeping community. How about daylight savings? Can Windows deal with that? Other than by just shoving the clock back and forward by an hour on the right days? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com