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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:39:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <517AE606.2020701@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9759246C-474A-48E0-A943-4A57C35A07ED@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>

On 26/04/2013 20:36, Stroller wrote:
> 
> On 26 April 2013, at 16:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> ...
>> So here's what you do: sync everything to your ISP's time servers.
>> Chances are good they do a better job than you can, just like with DNS
>> caching.
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if my ISP offers time servers, but Apple and MS both run time servers which are publicly accessible (presumably from any o/s).
> 
> I've never changed my laptop from its default, to sync with time.euro.apple.com, but my Linux boxes all use the public ntp pool, so I was surprised to read the other comments claiming the latter to be inaccurate.
> 
> Whenever I restart /etc/init.d/ntpd on my Linux boxes I can see their time match that of my laptop, as consistent as I can see, i.e. less than a second's difference between them.


ntpd has some wicked amazing optimizations built in, much more so if you
use multiple upstream sources. If one of them drifts, the software is
able to recognize it and defer instead to other sources that seem more
stable. It's like magic, the dodgy data tends to fall out of the system
leaving just the good data. Which is exactly what you want when using
volunteer resources of unknown and variable quality.

I'd compare the public ntp pool to a privateer race team - they can be
awesome, do amazing things with limited resources and often win races.
But for consistency and the best of the best, you need the Honda and
Yamaha factory teams (complete with obscene budgets).

For laptop, desktop and even most company's server needs, the public ntp
pool is perfectly good enough, which is what I think you observe in your
environment.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-26 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-25 14:33 [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion Nick Khamis
2013-04-25 14:39 ` Dale
2013-04-25 17:24   ` Nilesh Govindrajan
2013-04-25 23:48     ` Dale
2013-04-25 14:40 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-25 14:46   ` Tanstaafl
2013-04-25 17:05     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-25 15:03   ` Nick Khamis
2013-04-25 15:02 ` Tanstaafl
2013-04-25 15:07   ` Nick Khamis
2013-04-25 23:42     ` William Kenworthy
2013-04-25 23:50       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-25 23:57         ` staticsafe
2013-04-26  0:25           ` William Kenworthy
2013-04-25 17:10   ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 14:10 ` Joseph
2013-04-26 14:52   ` Jarry
2013-04-26 15:27     ` Nick Khamis
2013-04-26 15:41       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 15:54         ` Nick Khamis
2013-04-26 16:44           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 17:11             ` Nick Khamis
2013-04-26 20:33               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:28                 ` Nick Khamis
2013-04-27 15:06                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 18:36         ` Stroller
2013-04-26 20:39           ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2013-04-26 18:54 ` Paul Hartman
2013-04-26 20:41   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 20:46     ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " the guard
2013-04-26 20:54       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:02         ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " the guard
2013-04-26 21:10           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:43             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-27  1:20               ` Peter Humphrey
2013-04-27  3:19                 ` William Kenworthy
2013-04-27  3:44                 ` Andrew Lowe
2013-04-27 15:15                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-27 17:45                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-27  9:07                 ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " Neil Bothwick
2013-04-27 15:09                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-27 17:48               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-27 16:24             ` Tanstaafl
2013-04-27 16:33               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-27 17:48               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-26 22:11         ` Paul Hartman
2013-04-27 15:27           ` Alan McKinnon

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