From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F3B1381F3 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61D2BE0AA2; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.226]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29AAE08BA for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:42:38 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAIG+eVF8lUnA/2dsb2JhbABJBQODBje7UYJfgQUWdIIfAQEFeBELDQsJFg8JAwIBAgFFEwgBAYgPvmeNf4EDIxcRBYM4A4kPjg2GDyOKcIMbLw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,553,1363104000"; d="scan'208";a="108265273" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([124.149.73.192]) by icp-osb-irony-out9.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2013 07:42:36 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9105F5F798 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:42:31 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lan.localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.lan.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zPZRP2ESAOJO for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:42:04 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.44.3] (moriah [192.168.44.3]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AC35F02F for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:42:04 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <5179BF4C.9080007@iinet.net.au> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:42:04 +0800 From: William Kenworthy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130320 Thunderbird/17.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion References: <51794585.5080502@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3a6e3fb5-7de6-4a2e-be83-248a38ab7d2e X-Archives-Hash: 267a01c1d59eaa025685f3a4e964a5ba On 25/04/13 23:07, Nick Khamis wrote: >> Ummm... *all* servers are critically time-sensitive. >> > > Yeah... I concur ;) > Define critical! - to my mind if its critical you should be running your own atomic clock, and something like a pps system to distribute it ... or somewhere in the middle a local gps receiver for time lock. Or do you mean reasonably accurate, but closely synced local systems? My interest after having a stable ntp based hierarchy for years is in trying to get the same using a cisco router and VMs' - not easy so far! When I used an ancient netgear adsl, and a linux firewall/ntp server it was very good, now ... Does anyone know a good guide to using time sync in VM's, for both windows and linux (gentoo) guests using libvirt? Especially for guests that are resumed, or the whole virtualisation system is hibernated? (ntp refuses to resync after guest pause/save/restore/resume (known problem), even with "tinker panic 0" My current setup is complicated by using a cisco router (adsl) as the localnet master via local (ISP/University) time servers - its rather inaccurate so while the machines are often "locked", its in rather relative terms :) ghost#sh ntp ass address ref clock st when poll reach delay offset disp +~130.95.128.36 210.9.192.50 2 44 64 377 11.9 -844.4 213.6 +~116.66.162.4 130.234.255.83 2 8 64 377 48.7 -907.5 213.3 +~203.0.178.191 43.128.117.84 2 23 64 377 12.2 -891.0 213.3 ~192.168.48.1 134.115.4.33 3 9h39 64 0 17.3 -616.8 16000. *~27.54.95.11 218.100.43.70 2 42 64 377 12.7 -846.7 221.4 +~202.127.210.36 223.255.185.2 2 31 64 377 62.2 -845.3 211.2 +~130.102.128.23 132.163.4.101 2 38 64 377 77.3 -850.4 212.4 * master (synced), # master (unsynced), + selected, - candidate, ~ configured ghost# asterisk ~ # ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== ghost.lan.local 27.54.95.11 3 u 64 64 377 1.386 2838.19 513.843 asterisk