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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:10:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51706150.3070607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51705B06.4000508@googlemail.com>

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On 04/18/2013 04:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 18.04.2013 22:13, schrieb Michael Mol:
>> On 04/18/2013 04:02 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am 18.04.2013 21:48, schrieb Michael Mol:

[snip]

>>>> My particular discovery was that if I launched WoW under WINE, and then
>>>> launched a browser, audio in WoW worked fine. If I launched the browser
>>>> first (which resulted in a flash applet being loaded in GMail for the
>>>> purpose of audio notifications for google talk), Flash grabbed the ALSA
>>>> device and no WINE application could get at it. Routing both through
>>>> PulseAudio solved the problem.
>>> /I can have as many flash instances as I want and still listen to stuff
>>> being played in vlc. Without pulseaudio crap.
>>>
>>> Maybe wine just sucks?/
>>>
>> Easy on the invective. Did you pay attention to the specific sequence of
>> events I described? Or are you simply reporting that Flash works fine as
>> an ALSA client along other concurrently reporting tasks, with no
>> reference to the explicit order of the launch of things?
>>
>> Incidentally, WoW+WINE worked absolutely fine with other ALSA clients.
>> It was only when Flash got added to the mix--and was launched
>> first--that I had a problem. Further, if Flash was launched before PA
>> (and ALSA apps weren't configured to route through PA's alsa wrapper),
>> PA itself could not latch on to the sound card.
>>
>> Also, it's possible Adobe has since fixed the bug. This was a couple
>> years ago, even before they added direct PulseAudio support to flash.
> 
> the order is completely irrelavant. I start flash, xine, amarok, vlc,
> alsaplayer, whatever - and it just works. Without pulseaudio, jackd,
> esd, artsd etc pp.

Do you say that because you've tested the various orders and know that
one application will not conflict with another if started before that,
or do you say that because you've never noticed a problem, despite not
knowing the order you've started things?

> 
> I don't use wine. For a lot of good reasons.
> 

Name one.


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-18 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-18 19:32 [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 19:48 ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 20:13     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:43       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:10         ` Michael Mol [this message]
2013-04-18 21:46           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:02             ` Michael Mol
2013-04-19 20:34               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:57             ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:26   ` [gentoo-user] " Hartmut Figge
2013-04-18 21:29     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-04-18 20:31   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 20:47   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:28   ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:14     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-21 19:46     ` [gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] " Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-21 21:20       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-22  3:13         ` Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-25 20:15           ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  7:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2013-04-19  8:49   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  9:53     ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " the guard
2013-04-23 20:59     ` William Hubbs
2013-04-23 22:12       ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24  2:46         ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 10:21           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 20:55           ` William Hubbs
2013-05-13 13:32           ` Alex Schuster
2013-04-25 20:10         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-25 19:34           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 10:46       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-24 21:19         ` Alecks Gates
2013-04-25 15:37           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20  9:34   ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-20 14:48     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 12:13       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20 15:41     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-20 19:34       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-21  1:15       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-21 10:28         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 11:52           ` Mick
2013-04-21 14:24             ` Dale
2013-04-21 16:00               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 18:40                 ` Dale
2013-04-21 21:09                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-22  0:36           ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-04-20 21:05     ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-04-25 15:48     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 17:31       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-25 20:26         ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  3:10         ` [gentoo-user] " Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 19:17       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-26  8:34         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 12:05           ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 12:56             ` Yohan Pereira
2013-04-26 13:26               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 15:41             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 16:29               ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 17:02                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 18:38                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 19:09                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 20:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 22:14                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  0:57                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 20:21                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 20:38                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 22:28                       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-27  2:11                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  6:37                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 18:03               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 18:25                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 19:51                   ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-27  1:10                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-27 15:55                       ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-27 20:13                         ` Dale
2013-04-28  0:24                           ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28  9:59                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:02                               ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28 17:00                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:11                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-28 17:12                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 17:33                                   ` Mick
2013-04-28 17:56                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 21:54           ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-25 19:55       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26  8:50         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 13:59           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26 22:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-19 13:43 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-19 15:28   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-04-19 16:16     ` Karl Lindén
2013-04-19 16:20     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 16:44       ` James
2013-04-19 16:55         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 20:36   ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-04-19 21:06     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-19 21:19       ` Stefan G. Weichinger

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