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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:48:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51704E1E.7010409@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130418193224.GA3234@acm.acm>

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On 04/18/2013 03:32 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

[snip]

> So, I grasped the nettle, put in a negative pulseaudio use flag, unmerged
> pa and alsa-plugins, then rebuilt the 14 packages which needed it.
> 
> Surprisingly, everything still works.  I now get those last seconds from
> my news streams.  :-)
> 
> So, yes, I can recomment the removal of pulseaudio, unless anybody's got
> some particular need for it.

IME, there is one application that all but forces the use of PulseAudio:
Flash. Once Flash grabs onto an ALSA device, it doesn't let go, so you
*must* route it through PA if you would like to reliably use it with
anything else.

My particular discovery was that if I launched WoW under WINE, and then
launched a browser, audio in WoW worked fine. If I launched the browser
first (which resulted in a flash applet being loaded in GMail for the
purpose of audio notifications for google talk), Flash grabbed the ALSA
device and no WINE application could get at it. Routing both through
PulseAudio solved the problem.

The other reason I still use PA is X11...I like to use uxterm
extensively within X, and the only way to get the X11 bell working
appears to be via PA. So that's what I do. (Googling the history of that
bit of functionality was infuriating; that was the first time Lennart
pissed me off. Before someone finally acquiesced and added the
functionality to PA, he fought it, saying it wasn't PA's job.)


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-18 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-18 19:32 [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 19:48 ` Michael Mol [this message]
2013-04-18 20:02   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 20:13     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:43       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:10         ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 21:46           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:02             ` Michael Mol
2013-04-19 20:34               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 22:57             ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:26   ` [gentoo-user] " Hartmut Figge
2013-04-18 21:29     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-18 20:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-04-18 20:31   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-18 20:47   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-04-18 21:28   ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-18 21:14     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-21 19:46     ` [gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] " Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-21 21:20       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-22  3:13         ` Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
2013-04-25 20:15           ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  7:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2013-04-19  8:49   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19  9:53     ` [gentoo-user] Re[2]: " the guard
2013-04-23 20:59     ` William Hubbs
2013-04-23 22:12       ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24  2:46         ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 10:21           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 20:55           ` William Hubbs
2013-05-13 13:32           ` Alex Schuster
2013-04-25 20:10         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-25 19:34           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-04-24 10:46       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-24 21:19         ` Alecks Gates
2013-04-25 15:37           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20  9:34   ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-20 14:48     ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 12:13       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-20 15:41     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-20 19:34       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-21  1:15       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-21 10:28         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 11:52           ` Mick
2013-04-21 14:24             ` Dale
2013-04-21 16:00               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-04-21 18:40                 ` Dale
2013-04-21 21:09                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-22  0:36           ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-04-20 21:05     ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-04-25 15:48     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 17:31       ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-25 20:26         ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  3:10         ` [gentoo-user] " Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-25 19:17       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-26  8:34         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 12:05           ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 12:56             ` Yohan Pereira
2013-04-26 13:26               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 15:41             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 16:29               ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 17:02                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 18:38                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 19:09                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 20:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-26 22:14                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  0:57                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 20:21                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 20:38                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-26 22:28                       ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-27  2:11                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-27  6:37                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 18:03               ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-26 18:25                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 19:51                   ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-04-27  1:10                     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-27 15:55                       ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-27 20:13                         ` Dale
2013-04-28  0:24                           ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28  9:59                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:02                               ` Randy Barlow
2013-04-28 17:00                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 16:11                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-28 17:12                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-28 17:33                                   ` Mick
2013-04-28 17:56                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-26 21:54           ` Walter Dnes
2013-04-25 19:55       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26  8:50         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-26 13:59           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-04-26 21:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26 22:37           ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-19 13:43 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-04-19 15:28   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2013-04-19 16:16     ` Karl Lindén
2013-04-19 16:20     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 16:44       ` James
2013-04-19 16:55         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-04-19 20:36   ` [gentoo-user] " Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-04-19 21:06     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-04-19 21:19       ` Stefan G. Weichinger

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