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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:09:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51561F19.9060606@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51561D51.6090405@iinet.net.au>

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On 03/29/2013 07:01 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> On 30/03/13 06:34, Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Peter Humphrey
>> <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
>>> On Thursday 28 March 2013 20:53:49 Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my case, my ISP's DNS servers are slow (several seconds to reply),
>>>> fail randomly when they should resolve, return an IP (which goes to
>>>> their ad-laden "helper" website if you are using a web browser) when
>>>> they should instead return nxdomain, and they have openly admitted to
>>>> selling customer DNS lookup history to marketers for targeted
>>>> advertising.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That is just evil. Have you no alternative to this ISP?
>>
>> Not really.
>>
>> I have a 100 megabit connection through the cable company; my only
>> wired alternative is DSL (1.5 mbit for almost half the price I'm
>> paying for 100mbit). Cellular or satellite are not viable options for
>> me because of comparatively poor value, latency and miniscule data
>> usage caps.
>>
> 
> Can you do a tunnel to a cheap vsp instance that can access an external
> dns, and feed all your dns queries through it?  Considering the problems
> with your existing setup, that looks attractive and you can have sane
> fallbacks if neccessary.
> 
> I tried this to avoid the "Australia Tax" when online shopping overseas
> and the small additional latency didnt seem to be a problem.

Doesn't even need to be that complicated.

Set up a free tunnel with tunnelbroker.net, and use Hurricane Electric's
provided IPv6 DNS servers. They run the tunnel service as a loss-leader,
and if they're doing anything funky with their DNS data, I haven't heard
about it.

Chances are, the local ISP won't be filtering traffic flowing across a
proto41 tunnel. (IPv6 packet as an IPv4 packet payload. It's called a
proto41 tunnel because 41 is placed in the "next protocol" field in the
IPv4 packet.)



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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-29 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-28  8:51 [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack Norman Rieß
2013-03-28  9:07 ` Adam Carter
2013-03-28 22:16   ` Norman Rieß
2013-03-28 15:12 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-03-28 20:51   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-28 20:57     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-28 21:04       ` Michael Mol
2013-03-28 22:36         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-28 15:38 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-28 16:06   ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-28 16:10     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-28 18:26   ` Norman Rieß
2013-03-28 19:16   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-28 19:38     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-28 20:02       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-28 20:53         ` Paul Hartman
2013-03-28 20:59           ` Michael Mol
2013-03-29  0:49           ` Peter Humphrey
2013-03-29  8:53             ` Norman Rieß
2013-03-29 13:27               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-29 13:36                 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-29 22:34             ` Paul Hartman
2013-03-29 23:01               ` William Kenworthy
2013-03-29 23:09                 ` Michael Mol [this message]
2013-03-30  4:07               ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-30 12:06               ` Norman Rieß
2013-03-30 14:53                 ` Rene Rasmussen
2013-03-30 15:15                   ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-30 15:30                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-03-30 15:11                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-30 16:44                   ` Norman Rieß
2013-03-30 17:30                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: [seriously O/T] " Mick
2013-03-29 13:24           ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2013-03-28 16:53 ` Jarry
2013-03-28 19:40   ` Paul Ezvan
2013-03-31  2:08 ` Paul Hartman
2013-03-31  8:47   ` Jarry
2013-03-31 19:07   ` Norman Rieß

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