From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3572E138010 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27A06E08EE; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f47.google.com (mail-bk0-f47.google.com [209.85.214.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CAF2E08A4 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id ik5so1255313bkc.6 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:39:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tz22PIkoPM9qQAF6kvW0rigg1kVR/wNMyoXzRaiKd5M=; b=CfCFLVP4hfr2O01JMXJwsXpTqvlGcvz8E4sawzN0iUB6al6vKZaWTyfVg89N9D1Ae8 t0HUFkZHC2uinUVBfNbr2i3iO5dkFlU0M/HSQ0FwPfrhx8d4eKycHHSlg3Do/ugShCZK +LYMbWryqVmcy4GTzxF+iriDWsZT5mo1d2t2+x6SRCCAd4f6lmQ0GsvHg6yfaZO3u3P3 1LewfRMX9GefaC4jOK38c4Tw8qq3uruY58mK+S74794B3ziCWm9AWngJ9pO+af/JQeJ6 HcOuxnaMR5LI3CSjBrV2yf8Bnq18vdFK0kz6Bs0uudZR9PLtpPp5Awfa7q+V4SiAtxgH bJvA== X-Received: by 10.204.239.197 with SMTP id kx5mr6778411bkb.71.1364326779949; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (p57A85365.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [87.168.83.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cr6sm886441bkb.2.2013.03.26.12.39.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5151F97A.6070807@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:38 +0100 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130326 Thunderbird/17.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System freezes during compiles References: <1363754548.1800.1.camel@hydra> <1363816251.2829.48.camel@hydra> <31df8b4869b5bc70bb934c3846c4a427.squirrel@www.antarean.org> In-Reply-To: <31df8b4869b5bc70bb934c3846c4a427.squirrel@www.antarean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f5958d5f-3afd-411b-9d9f-884693c2e9bd X-Archives-Hash: 723dcc946beb60df5e36543d2d120b8d Am 26.03.2013 15:13, schrieb J. Roeleveld: > On Thu, March 21, 2013 21:03, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2013-03-20, Carlos Hendson wrote: >> >>> Could this be the cause of the stalls during compiles? If it is the >>> cause, is it possible for the kernel to detect such failures and report >>> them? >> I think that as long as the errors are "recovered" they shouldn't >> cause problems. The $64 question is whether those errors are >> indicating that you're headed for unrecoverable errors (which will >> cause problems). If they seem to be increasing in frequency, I'd >> probably be a little worried. > Consumer harddrives, which I am assuming you are using, will stall > indefinitely untill they have fixed the error they are encountering. no, they don't. PATa drives take 30secs. SATA not even a tenth. That is why dmesg can fill up with hdd errors and you don't realize it until a reboot and the drive not spinning up anymore. > > RAID-drives (With TLER = Time Limited Error Recovery) will return sooner > with an error-code which can then be handled by the controller and/or > driver. > > In other words, yes, these can explain the stalls during compiles. they would - if it wasn't already established that it was overheating.