From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C584D1396D9 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 14:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16FE4E0FE0; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 14:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg0-x235.google.com (mail-pg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98504E0E4B for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 14:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-x235.google.com with SMTP id k7so11725254pga.3 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=V+J6xy/EL130NVUDHPJ1Rv4eF6kN3ARYxiJoB9xYTXQ=; b=qDFmkK2QzKAKb/TuDlLPT4DbxAJSZ6kegMLx/tS13G4u9JuwMLxi1Jyl3u0Yt7Dvps ueH/ddarYYSfk/DKyRQi+tEwxWO79Kf3H89UDlTqSo55UGCJEbIja8sa2/O8HSdlE8tH vgHy2rqbppv8gKx8l3GBbnKTYGUK11Y2BYoKQZzCGD7uOCbWakGOkFd489hQ+2pGtRvX wm8a7+9Y3XYjGkfj0cXfH0Wd1TYGP3ZjK+g1M6hDFmIM6/1fFRXHUePCeT+sBjAxyntT 19gQBBwRub6pDFY4CaKmNy9cAahnpTXey6E2z7hao/5/QAkh0GM8tHz48lbkkS5p9Hcl kWCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V+J6xy/EL130NVUDHPJ1Rv4eF6kN3ARYxiJoB9xYTXQ=; b=o2/eiqEhMeeTJ2yzt7CQHrEGpzIW5DWgVylN8l6GunemxwA9i7TYDtoJNbjjHRgUUR 5drCUsDRsA1bvzlKeoMY4IpknK2tY13yhHiMx5t4RgM+uvZIzz/8t7GkL1O4T1eJC+Xm m0fVUSjU+lkp2C4HSvKGN3YASI20mZrf7rO+On4AKX10lotwELYuXCDnAeh7AA4Gq0Xe t2/otjH21U94e0VDnzt7Cx6cuZeUCKyH/NWZUDZUlLeYEUBzIEP2OMWqwfBbMvb52vPV qdKVJ3DBGt2+4ar6kYRLR4YGIB86zI5wmIH8pWZEt8aNJ6d1KstwExqCtkjsFgrhdDm1 0ZQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXmoELPGWnyGT3vYQGi2EbBO5w3kgnDW4etRey3j+lSbjG/mku+ g2/EekXrK6c7LaVmnFLZ09MPAkhh X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RrSF3Ts3eA355ScWEDnm4l25Ph3DjPFdU89q8LOwmuyKHWHCKQZyN/u6cSqwDBcWDfVjfFJQ== X-Received: by 10.84.194.195 with SMTP id h61mr7603807pld.222.1509372600401; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.247.60] (d75-155-153-147.bchsia.telus.net. [75.155.153.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n62sm30161389pfh.95.2017.10.30.07.09.59 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <1922379.ZbMImBqxyj@dell_xps> <924d1b49-16ef-52ce-57c2-5f6e838cbf8d@gmail.com> <20171030091007.03b2076d@peak.prhnet> <71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps> From: Daniel Frey Message-ID: <514fb8df-3d93-7368-963b-41dcb08762ce@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 07:09:58 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9444ec61-20ba-4f60-b0ff-40d1d73b4b68 X-Archives-Hash: 9e95d676998d06e429362b9e9dd190dd On 10/30/2017 03:15 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday, 30 October 2017 09:10:07 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: >> Today's forecasts of doom are the result of 30 years of dithering by >> governments of all stripes, neglecting to invest in new generation in spite >> of its absolute indispensability. > > I'll refrain from jumping into arguments on political neo-liberal decisions to > privatise utilities, which are /natural monopolies/ and how the > financialisation of our anglo-saxon economies has reduced the attention span > of corporations and the politicians funded by them to tomorrow morning's news > headlines. > > The point of indispensability of centralised energy generation though may no > longer be as absolute as once was. Microgeneration technologies and emerging > storage solutions could mean the future electricity grid resembles more of a > local mesh network, than the national scale infrastructure of the previous > century. > > Now, I better look into finding a way to silence this new UPS fan which seems > to be going on 24/7 with or without load on it! o_O > Some new UPS systems are designed to have the fan running all the time. I don't think it's a good idea to stop it... Dan