From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD85D198005 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33E64E04EB; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a48.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C52E0467 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a48.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a48.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D7F4F806A for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:16:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=4svTmj202MczdqcnjxFFsJ/FSvI=; b=lveDHyGOmO83 1jp6ADuVjwqBVgjZr8HWTzVtFId5mNSwfGwOo/ERy11Hd/WAngL3dPllUSvlYB4s zOXGoXdTDbSaPIf3UCnX1Sjj4PikB6VKLtGJGaDVWEzM0wlk4iPUClo6MbPLbXRM K/gWEZkf4+E0LhfGX2wy8d7nPWF/t6Q= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a48.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 353264F8057 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5146F75B.8030104@libertytrek.org> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:15:39 -0400 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I guess it is time to update udev from 171-r10 to 197-r8... References: <5146017F.6000407@libertytrek.org> <20130317181710.70468ce1@digimed.co.uk> <51460C8E.1090303@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <51460C8E.1090303@libertytrek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b40a16e9-5e3c-4bad-9288-5f6de3ff48b2 X-Archives-Hash: c7e1bbaf5dc69bd1829a269bdb4a4023 Ok, spent a little time re-reading the old threads about this... Just to confirm, changes I should make in my /etc/fstab... normal fs lines > # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot! > none /proc proc defaults 0 0 I can/should simply delete the above two lines? then > # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for > # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink). > # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will > # use almost no memory if not populated with files) > shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 I should change the above line to: > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 Combined with the other recommended changes: > - Remove udev-postmount from runlevels. > > - Enable CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; I've also seen recommendation to enable: CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y ? > need to verify the fstype for possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is > devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) I have no /dev line, and only one network adapter, so nothing to do here > - The case of separate /usr; if it worked for you with 171 it will > continue to work for you with 197 (or newer). We still recommend > initramfs with separate /usr mounting capabilities because you > might need packages like sys-apps/kbd (keymaps in /usr) or > net-wireless/bluez (possible keyboard) in early boot. Ok, this one is unclear... My system is currently indeed (and always has been) booting fine with a separate /usr (on lvm)... but... The above reference to 'might need packages like sys-apps/kbd', which is now *required* by udev, suggests that now I again do need an initramsf? Thanks for ya'lls patience. I have a feeling this is going to be another non-event, but I'd much prefer a little pre-update pain than a lot of post-update pain... ;)