From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53028198005 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4488CE076F; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f44.google.com (mail-bk0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE32EE0732 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j4so2195561bkw.31 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:31:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u0lEOtthqstHzpZGTcXWwCyLmLspv/cwPr7wpFqTK5A=; b=HGmfmpWG/Nb9YmdtGMWGX7bg7acQC8nRvAUt7O2+RM6TO5AJFpL0NdzaoCPKjtAZD2 HUXPzjeS0zM7C8bpt8g5ueX3KZvxph6EqdY6tPTFFoteHUg09HLsfcVSRDJr3SGcpXpk gER15Zr2NVqe4AQfvoMM6zFHt2HivFBYDew5nnZpx6HjV/tWqpd8Vml4oj54uFgQhOBW 51MDRjq2zSmWaHbz7kqHOo2uTc/pa0XsFMnohFekRX9C7D2CKUbQVFTTNJj8YKCHDA7s K8HDFCNL5zRN+ucNcXBuyE59q5isjlTk67dB3r5QcFfxBlEe7oWswnipLXXGkbP9C0k7 A8dg== X-Received: by 10.205.115.17 with SMTP id fc17mr6060939bkc.77.1363087903286; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-215-205-209.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.205.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fy17sm4957754bkc.6.2013.03.12.04.31.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <513F11A2.4040404@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:29:38 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130304 Thunderbird/17.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/hosts include file? References: <263693.5416.bm@smtp197.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <513A423D.3080900@gmail.com> <293639.72773.bm@smtp143.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <20130309001343.GB25016@waltdnes.org> <513A8529.7000708@gmail.com> <20130310014256.GA27509@waltdnes.org> <513C17D2.7080008@gmail.com> <513CF60D.7060708@gmail.com> <20130311040016.GA30399@waltdnes.org> <513D944F.4090401@gmail.com> <20130311224549.GA30808@waltdnes.org> <513E8CC8.50003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <513E8CC8.50003@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 34affe9c-36b1-411f-a43c-bcd992730e48 X-Archives-Hash: ae2d2bd1aea2f1305e1c59cd399bf46f On 12/03/2013 04:02, Michael Mol wrote: >> We should be pounding away on the fact that we're running out of IP >> > addresses... period... end of story. If people ask about NAT, then >> > mention that the undersupply will be so bad that even NAT won't >> > help. > In my presentations, I've stopped bothering to wait for people to ask > about NAT, because it starts off in their minds from nearly the > beginning--and until they get that question answered, most of what I say > washes past them as ancillary and not as important as the question > pressing on their minds. > In one short paragraph you said exactly what I was trying to say in 4 mails (and still didn't succeed) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com