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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/hosts include file?
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:33:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <513D4286.6050609@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <513D39E4.8030909@orlitzky.com>

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On 03/10/2013 09:56 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 03/10/2013 06:00 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>
>>> It's been ages since I looked at that link and longer addresses 
>>> would certainly be needed anyway but certainly with DNSSEC again 
>>> concocted by costly unthoughtful and unengaging groups who chose
>>> to ignore DJB and enable amplification attacks.
> 
>> What from DJB did they ignore? I honestly don't know what you're
>> talking about.
> 
> 
> This was a non-sequitur as far as I can tell, but I remember the
> amplification attack from a talk:
> 
>   http://vimeo.com/18279777 (video)
>   http://cr.yp.to/talks/2010.12.28/slides.pdf (slides)
> 
> It was a really good talk, however you feel about DJB.
> 
> 

Didn't watch the video, but I did read the slide deck. It's a good read,
even if I disagree with a number of key points, disagree with the tack
taken as a solution, and further think the presenter cherry-picked his
arguments, amplified inconsequential pieces of the problem space and
skipped over obvious problems with his approach. (Hm. I suspect I'm
formulating an opinion on DJB, and I didn't have one a couple hours
ago...) (That said, he does seem to know how to use slide decks properly!)


I believe Kevin's position is that, while I cited "secure your DNS" in
response to some of the arguments raised by a slide deck he linked to,
"securing your DNS" would likely involve using DNSSEC, which DJB argues
enable amplification attacks.


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-11  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-07 22:24 [gentoo-user] /etc/hosts include file? Alan McKinnon
2013-03-07 23:50 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08  0:29 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08  8:32   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-08 13:40     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 13:54       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-08 19:50         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-08 19:55           ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 21:49             ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-08 22:36               ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-09  0:50                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-09  3:27                   ` Michael Mol
2013-03-09 12:53                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-10 21:28                       ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11 23:09                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12  5:05                           ` Michael Mol
2013-03-09  0:13               ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-09  0:41                 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-10  1:42                   ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-10  4:59                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-03-10 21:09                       ` Michael Mol
2013-03-10  5:19                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-10 21:07                       ` Michael Mol
2013-03-10 21:43                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-10 22:02                           ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11  4:00                         ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-11  4:37                           ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11  8:22                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-11 22:45                             ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-11 23:39                               ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12  3:58                                 ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-12  0:25                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-12  2:02                               ` Michael Mol
2013-03-12 11:29                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-13  0:26                                   ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-11 23:31                             ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12  0:37                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-09  0:45                 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-09  3:21                   ` Michael Mol
2013-03-09 12:53                     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-10 22:00                       ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11  1:56                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-03-11  2:33                           ` Michael Mol [this message]
2013-03-11 22:34                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12  3:36                           ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 15:39   ` Florian Philipp
2013-03-08  4:30 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-08  8:23   ` Alan McKinnon

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