From: Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/hosts include file?
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:33:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <513D4286.6050609@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <513D39E4.8030909@orlitzky.com>
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On 03/10/2013 09:56 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 03/10/2013 06:00 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>
>>> It's been ages since I looked at that link and longer addresses
>>> would certainly be needed anyway but certainly with DNSSEC again
>>> concocted by costly unthoughtful and unengaging groups who chose
>>> to ignore DJB and enable amplification attacks.
>
>> What from DJB did they ignore? I honestly don't know what you're
>> talking about.
>
>
> This was a non-sequitur as far as I can tell, but I remember the
> amplification attack from a talk:
>
> http://vimeo.com/18279777 (video)
> http://cr.yp.to/talks/2010.12.28/slides.pdf (slides)
>
> It was a really good talk, however you feel about DJB.
>
>
Didn't watch the video, but I did read the slide deck. It's a good read,
even if I disagree with a number of key points, disagree with the tack
taken as a solution, and further think the presenter cherry-picked his
arguments, amplified inconsequential pieces of the problem space and
skipped over obvious problems with his approach. (Hm. I suspect I'm
formulating an opinion on DJB, and I didn't have one a couple hours
ago...) (That said, he does seem to know how to use slide decks properly!)
I believe Kevin's position is that, while I cited "secure your DNS" in
response to some of the arguments raised by a slide deck he linked to,
"securing your DNS" would likely involve using DNSSEC, which DJB argues
enable amplification attacks.
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-07 22:24 [gentoo-user] /etc/hosts include file? Alan McKinnon
2013-03-07 23:50 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 0:29 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 8:32 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-08 13:40 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 13:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-08 19:50 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-08 19:55 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 21:49 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-08 22:36 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-09 0:50 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-09 3:27 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-09 12:53 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-10 21:28 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11 23:09 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12 5:05 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-09 0:13 ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-09 0:41 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-10 1:42 ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-10 4:59 ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-03-10 21:09 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-10 5:19 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-10 21:07 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-10 21:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-10 22:02 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11 4:00 ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-11 4:37 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11 8:22 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-11 22:45 ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-11 23:39 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12 3:58 ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-12 0:25 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-12 2:02 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-12 11:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-13 0:26 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-11 23:31 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12 0:37 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-09 0:45 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-09 3:21 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-09 12:53 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-10 22:00 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-11 1:56 ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-03-11 2:33 ` Michael Mol [this message]
2013-03-11 22:34 ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-12 3:36 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-08 15:39 ` Florian Philipp
2013-03-08 4:30 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-08 8:23 ` Alan McKinnon
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