From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2441389F9 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 291F321C033; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 174F321C007 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 14:12:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.49] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 14:12:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 14:12:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 755792.26492.bm@smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: eHQABQEVM1mQFBAvhXp3Owyv4_STFwpWhoAbfeKK3Cb5Mmc UldZ9POSDHZxqxWehvM55Qrz094GHz5N3eNkjAkBLIm7kLzbjyefAj44DDjY f_N0obG9TKtdJAiKl.arZAAk8MD_6880CNBLs5KYB.WQnGVD51ANH5CS9LaA FCMmRrxNVgoh3wISq_sbXyKgh7GIJg1UDn9dzRX0_UONkWoA7SvMlEme_Jr9 6t77jNpnD3OM.PY.XZ2yUnxAsg9aFK3SXrSbIdBzXBxXVTn7TKPPZ9X8cznT eveiaxcZVLh4Vyw4wR98csAkMn9tjFnclCjONKFHHG8.7g8ig9uG5tSX2SbD .IZLf3lX5cm3MWwqHtx5jzNFfC8li8XtD.4AgOq9EOhgs1yBuHwsSCLnqKgT ppYiUaKC.6yD0e7EgP8ngtiWaqh_y93AHCH4zISLBydeSlVVWlWneGWiAsnW UZp7tVYs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: oM3WcDSswBC7zv73TQKEsi7eAZ0- Received: from [192.168.1.2] (w41ter@69.234.177.94 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2013 06:12:40 -0800 PST Message-ID: <511B9F57.6060501@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 06:12:39 -0800 From: walt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130208 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2 [now gnome3] References: <5109521C.3030207@xunil.at> <20130130173615.GA10408@BIFROST.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <51095D00.2040100@xunil.at> <511B072B.5030106@gmail.com> <511B6D6A.2020409@gmail.com> <83784AD7-77A0-472A-B594-17B8FB525DED@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <511B85CC.1070004@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <511B85CC.1070004@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b96fd54e-1f4f-497b-a90e-2aee58c57a0e X-Archives-Hash: 9f67eaa39cd5c00b2f1ee0f985c50421 On 02/13/2013 04:23 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > All the progress I see from Gnome3 (and I get this only from blog posts > on the tubes) is that stuff is being ripped out and replaced with mostly > nothing. That's exactly my problem with gnome3 in a sentence. I don't hate gnome-shell as an interface, I hate it because some important (to me) stuff is missing and if it's possible to get the missing stuff back, I don't know how to do it. The gnome3 devs may intend to restore the missing stuff at some point, but I don't know, and meanwhile I'm frustrated and my attitude is deteriorating. Heh. I should just go back to gentoo stable and keep using gnome2 for a year until I'm ready to be frustrated again -- as I surely will be soon enough.