From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8E81389B4 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB01821C01A; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BD53E0525 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 03:23:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.53] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 03:23:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 03:23:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 98136.13654.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: f9seAkcVM1mfYOavlGU8wdnxxJZ58TCyfNhEhpSa8aqiiE. OLyxhTx4WO9MmOEZVlTjVnaUQYHonba4WEOEgJFjDdDdZNd.BwBEAjIVKWRh dKE0uU0stvf_ZZfsHRcU2xsODcdMWY3y0yA.fwiDdjMcVlBbFUpBvwJSsITM kgN2UL9DMUYk3aATYncKcJ8gbmqcIVJbyl4AbPBA.sQoftyyPM1IgmvnD.28 fWsc4uRokKhzIlF3DJ8DE8wgGFQWvIsBsClO5ZjYKFJX0T3AYQ0sVDAC6_tB fEsP9lLTGdYCT6D2o48aXkP4055ve7oexwGxmK24jV.z.nGfTF5frO_lHDwR neFBJM.s4VUljyk5fddWeT8jBTStuNRmYiSB67XuHNPah3U5rLK7qnZY86as 41Xa1SXIxf4_2kTdQagIDGMPuUs8iIlbVm9h3C9BUWrJsKPq5uwwm340N.Mx 15UdoiVxY X-Yahoo-SMTP: oM3WcDSswBC7zv73TQKEsi7eAZ0- Received: from [192.168.1.2] (w41ter@69.234.183.118 with plain) by smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2013 19:23:23 -0800 PST Message-ID: <511B072B.5030106@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:23:23 -0800 From: walt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130208 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2 [now gnome3] References: <5109521C.3030207@xunil.at> <20130130173615.GA10408@BIFROST.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <51095D00.2040100@xunil.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 0417c116-4481-4523-a93d-a777c79c950b X-Archives-Hash: 81cbfe5772b2b2d4648f62182255cb5c On 02/12/2013 12:26 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> GNOME 3.6 is not masked in Gentoo, just keyworded. > > Apologies for the slight thread hijack, but I've been curious if anyone > knows the current state of Gnome 3 in Gentoo? Heh. That's a complicated question, and I'm ready to give you a complicated answer but I probably can't stay awake that long :) Most important: are you ready to suffer long hours of learning/debugging/hair- pulling/screaming to help guide the future of gnome3? Big question, and I'm still trying to decide for myself after months of not deciding :) I loved gnome2 and I wish for the good old days because every step the gnome3 devs have taken is a mystery to me. They probably have a grand vision for the future of the gnome desktop, but it's been nothing but a PITA for me because along the way they've removed some features from apps that I use everyday for important stuff like, scheduling/keeping appointments on time, etc. In my arrogant opinion, gnome3 is betaware (just-barely-beyond-alphaware) and you should 'up'grade only if you're willing to live with that excitement. One little tidbit of good news (IMO) is that the gnome3 devs have decided to maintain a 'legacy' gnome desktop for those of us who don't like gnome-shell, which I definitely don't (but Canek definitely does). I suggest you try the latest gnome3 liveCD in a virtual machine so you don't have to risk your current gnome2 install. It's a big step, and one you may want to postpone if you're not ready for hard work and big headaches. IOW, try gnome3 on a virtual machine first :)