From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0854013896C for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2469D21C0C6; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83FAA21C008 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1963D202A2 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:42:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=plJHY+PN76SXOCzMoJOj1AWo qw0=; b=SXqMBpOM2hmFuh1nm6+mknIzFYn00XkwAB0FObdnVieo96o8yASObViX dbT5RPRWYsTF+0h3DGiHjzptb8CBbPXa0KnZyNGqtd+5s96a+GDotLcH40WQlP6v UCr7D7k+3XFFTxK4Om3X8Af2ieNs8haXuf0S/F6+BJoa46DHn30= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=plJH Y+PN76SXOCzMoJOj1AWoqw0=; b=N6H3As2HyRZ+h/CP6m8zshM9lC3TOHEzzldu PloUcnknkKAHuCrUccZytHvIBe4Jd362AA8nPlPuFmPbOMjkvLNtfcQeq19eWGyi Q/b852WRBJP3y24o0171RcBq1Cc3SehZF930wET0zX4Mg2aZ9CMLsPNjLgk2Lmlw +CwsEv0= X-Sasl-enc: UDEgXZWbzWTn9sVb9+3y2yVFS6dpaAx9hFOiZVUwdFVs 1360503744 Received: from [192.168.5.18] (unknown [83.169.5.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C3DE5482621 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:42:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5117A3B9.8040905@binarywings.net> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:42:17 +0100 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130202 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What to do with /var/run? References: <51175A29.3090002@binarywings.net> <51179534.4080308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2XIKGGAPIMNHFADLUVFOF" X-Archives-Salt: cbe587b1-c0b8-446c-ace0-38454a0f38f5 X-Archives-Hash: 1ce52101d1000bc4bed01d7e56835e76 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2XIKGGAPIMNHFADLUVFOF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 10.02.2013 14:14, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 10/02/2013 13:49, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Feb 10, 2013 3:29 AM, "Florian Philipp" wr= ote: >>>> >>>> Am 10.02.2013 06:11, schrieb Grant: >>>>> I received the following ELOG message after an emerge: >>>>> >>>>> * One or more symlinks to directories have been preserved in order= to >>>>> * ensure that files installed via these symlinks remain accessible= =2E >>> This >>>>> * indicates that the mentioned symlink(s) may be obsolete remnants= of >>> an >>>>> * old install, and it may be appropriate to replace a given symlin= k >>> with >>>>> * the directory that it points to. >>>>> * >>>>> * /var/run >>>>> [...] >>>> Even if I'm wrong, there is nothing to be done. /var/run is intended= to >>>> be a symlink to /run. If it is, then all is fine. >>>> [...] >> >> It's probably better to leave the symlink in place for now. What happe= ns >> when the user installs a package they have never had before and that >> package uses /var/run? >> >> It will make a directory which isn't what you want. >=20 > Hm. >=20 > lsof -n|grep /var/run|cut -d\ -f1|sort -u >=20 > gives me >=20 > acpid > avahi-dae > bluetooth > cupsd > dbus-daem > gdm > syslog-ng >=20 That's odd. Is your system up-to-date and recently rebooted? I'm running most of these services, too. But I have no open files in /var/run. > Of those, at least avahi and cups are emitting /var/run elogs, which > tells me they're defaulting to using /var/run instead of /run, if > /var/run is present. >=20 > Obviously, the transition isn't finished yet...software should default > to /run rather than /var/run, or the symlink can never be known to be > safe to remove on a given system. >=20 >> Better to leave the >> symlink in place and train your eyes to ignore the elogs (something we= >> humans are extremely good at) >=20 > Oh god no...Then you end up like some folks who get bit every time > something changes (despite being warned about it for a months in > advance). :) >=20 BTW: Am I the only one annoyed by elog messages like "If you are updating from $ANCIENT_VERSION make sure to change $DEPRECATED_FEATURE" lurking in the tree for years? Especially because when you see the message, it is a pain in the ass to check which version you were actually using before. 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