From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BFD1388EE for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 581DB21C009; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2DACE043A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 8so2402119wgl.30 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:29:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JUEJ/ek3aGcTkiYQHtudmeuu9/ZfbJoTiD4eAbTovSw=; b=okCuyX8+p3R1/drvhARv7lMG3aysPy9Qgid3VfBG0ucgRrCSinp+FlzDlrB/mEPHXv 3jFWcJ5jgC9QkMrc1blY7C86LosC3V9hpd6qw72nwlPtrwiZ/L1jFI62OgYnjNkka/DM AvZFaIaL8VKso/WQoQ+qcHX8qS48SqPzaIc5Y5lC8DQ/8P4A3i5Na4z0UMdC9HEFJFDt m0g0RYuvdQEzPBXNHLf10Bj8qYUVZHlJwTj0Nm4RnUT/RKIWbrrVeUmpS91q1qtnE342 brpsjdr2Rht4rFKx2VpAo5nY0z3cykOMsaFRKKsFhGxed3lHSXSbnoJTzdmRA4GOU8eU vbrw== X-Received: by 10.180.85.97 with SMTP id g1mr14473911wiz.29.1360268950415; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-215-2-98.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.2.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm4043379wiy.2.2013.02.07.12.29.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:29:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51140E55.5020303@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:28:05 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130114 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Creating accounts in Thunderbird References: <510E4F56.1080703@gmail.com> <510E584E.3090902@hadt.biz> <510E58C8.8080504@gmail.com> <510E59F9.3010308@hadt.biz> <510E5E00.5060209@gmail.com> <510E608F.9050207@hadt.biz> <510E6F4C.5050609@gmail.com> <5113CE83.7010802@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <5113CE83.7010802@libertytrek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 363cda82-5e7b-42c5-ab19-189a04ead58f X-Archives-Hash: bd52339e7d3f1c4754bc42ef9fd0f707 On 07/02/2013 17:55, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-02-03 9:08 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> So what we have here is a piece of FOSS software that is too fucking >> clever for it's own good. It's applying insane validation checks to >> things that are not in any spec at all: > > I never liked the auto-config behavior, but it isn't *that* bad... > > You weren't clear on the exact steps you were taking... > > Are you leaving the password field blank and the 'remember password'. > checkbox unchecked? If you enter a password, it will absolutely try to > verify it... Both ways, with and without a password entered. Enter a password, the wizard tries to validate it Don't enter a password, the wizard prompts you for one Get past that (using $MAGIC of course) it still tries to validate that the server is up and something is running there. The only way round that is to take the app offline whereupon it sensibly doesn't try validate things that are online. This naturally will be tagged as a bug as obviously the wizard should never even start whilst offline > Also, I've never set up an account on localhost, but I know you can set > up multiple accounts on the same hostname, so I don't see why you > couldn't set up multiple accounts on just plain 'localhost'... You can set up many accounts on localhost, but that's not what I said. It's complaining about the combination of username and hostname that is repeated. Which is silly, as username+hostname is not guaranteed to be a singleton in any universe. But none of this matters anymore. I got what I wanted and merely had to think like a stupid developer[1 -- Alan McKinnon Systems Engineer^W Technician Infrastructure Services Internet Solutions +27 11 575 7585 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com