From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248DA138830 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C676C21C093; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.viabit.com (mail2.viabit.com [65.246.80.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2341521C07A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.29.6] (vpn1.metro-data.com [65.213.236.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.viabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Yzhmf2PBjz1hfL for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:23:46 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=orlitzky.com; s=mail2; t=1359919426; bh=7EpXpnf8hGuBCfksRG0cAl85ZCItDMaFl54aLG2pxsA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=Lt/3doxsoLXhp33ff1XRxfcmG6BvfFlvL4lFwS76YkoEK4HAtMD/Q1ZIXZRmGwzEj lfJSNL3d8YcRUSNxPQiH3HHjTLCBVrJ8M7+mtS8cmnBp+Jygd8M3ud1nqPhw6EJvGy gohIWWwbx6U8NI8t4533/zhVij94dZFYCZPOMR1E= Message-ID: <510EB93F.8060201@orlitzky.com> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:23:43 -0500 From: Michael Orlitzky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130126 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev-191 bit me. Insufficient ptys References: <20130202162110.1623aaa5@weird.wonkology.org> <20130202211738.66a72582@khamul.example.com> <20130202203157.0bc3ba12@digimed.co.uk> <510D7B53.3090406@gmail.com> <20130203112416.400b433a@digimed.co.uk> <510E51DF.3070201@gmail.com> <20130203145445.50faece2@digimed.co.uk> <510E9D62.6080500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <510E9D62.6080500@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e80c4ed8-02fa-4c6c-baee-c5d4415a2065 X-Archives-Hash: 14cce5cdba90cc8112ca880733eafc3b On 02/03/2013 12:24 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > - trying to infer something from the current running kernel, or > /usr/src/linux/.config or some magic name in /boot/ is pointless and > leads to so many false positives it isn't worth the effort in the > general case. It was claimed that this will result in false positives, but no one would give any examples. You need /usr/src/linux to point to the right place anyway, if you want to compile out-of-tree modules, or e.g. video drivers. Most people have it pointed to the right place. If it's pointed to the wrong place by accident, it should be fixed. So the config check alerts them to that fact. Considering that there are no consequences for false positives, and big consequences for false negatives, I think it makes sense to trigger the warning and let people override it with I_KNOW_WHAT_I_AM_DOING in one of the rare cases where the kernel config is unavailable (or wrong). But alas, this horse is dead.