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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:29:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EA32EE.6020801@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EA2E15.4020006@gmail.com>

Dale wrote:
> William Kenworthy wrote:
>> On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <SNIP>
>>>> I'm not sure that is a bug.  As I posted earlier, this was changed a
>>>> good while back.  There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it
>>>> was.  The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*.  I don't have, and have
>>>> not had, /dev/cdrom or dvd on this rig for a good while and it works.  I
>>>> think this happened about the same time as the hard drive devices were
>>>> changed from hd* to sd* even for old IDE drives.  Since it was changed
>>>> on purpose, I don't believe this is a bug.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>> Might be true but how about digging up some references that this was
>>> done on purpose. It makes little sense to me that if someone did this
>>> on purpose, breaking lots of old scripts, leaving broken udev rules
>>> laying about and just assuming everyone would figure it out without so
>>> much and a news item then I'd say it was done pretty badly.
>>>
>>> Again, if it truly was 'on purpose' as you say then that's OK, but
>>> let's not create too much false history here. In my mind it's just as
>>> reasonable that it's just a mistake or someone that was overlooked,
>>> but I'm totally open to you showing us what we all missed.
>>>
>> Seems like the cabal has been busy again ... its not a bug but a feature!
>>
>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commit;h=19b66dc57cce27175ff421c4c3a37e4a491b9c01
>>
>> Also some hits on gentoo forums etc which imply that when actually
>> merged, the rules file was not included..
>>
>> This did happen awhile back and I just moved to /dev/sr0 and got on with
>> life so didnt go into it in too much detail.
>>
>> BillK
>>
> This is not Gentoo specific but I found this in a search that is just
> getting started:
>
> http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover
>
> So, it did happen when switching from old IDE based drivers to the
> newer, some claim improved, PATA/SATA drivers.  It appears the kernel
> started this but still searching for confirmation.
>
> Like Bill, when it was changed, I just updated the device information in
> my programs and went on.  It was the new way and it seemed it was going
> to be around for a good long while.  It looks like people who have
> created scripts are going to have to fire up vi or nano and do a little
> updating. 
>
> Going to search some more to get a better source. 
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>


This links goes to a specific post in the thread.  Don't scroll or you
will have to dig.  The one to look far if it messes up is the post by
NeddySeagoon. 

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6362608.html#6362608

More info:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-config.xml#doc_chap3

According to one page I found, this happened several years ago so no
idea how anyone missed it this long.  It was discussed on this very list
but my archives don't go back that far.  I figure if I don't run into a
problem in a year or so, I missed it which is a odd thing of itself
since I usually find every problem there is.  ;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!



  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-07  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-05 19:53 [gentoo-user] 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore Mark Knecht
2013-01-05 20:36 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-01-05 20:46   ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-05 20:37 ` Randy Barlow
2013-01-05 20:44 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2013-01-05 23:00   ` David M. Fellows
2013-01-06 11:19   ` Mick
2013-01-06 15:55     ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-07  1:22       ` Dale
2013-01-07  1:44         ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-07  1:53           ` William Kenworthy
2013-01-07  2:06             ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-07  2:08             ` Dale
2013-01-07  2:29               ` Dale [this message]
2013-01-07  4:53                 ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-07  7:35                   ` Dale
2013-01-07 22:53                     ` Mick
2013-01-08  7:09                       ` J. Roeleveld
2013-01-08  7:49                         ` Mick
2013-01-08 11:53                       ` Dale
2013-01-07 15:18         ` Grant Edwards
2013-01-07 17:37           ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-07 23:25             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08  1:05               ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-08  1:15                 ` Michael Mol
2013-01-08  6:42                   ` Mick
2013-01-08  9:21                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 20:26                   ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-08 21:12                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08 21:31                       ` Michael Mol
2013-01-09  3:22                     ` Dale
2013-01-11 14:31                       ` Mark Knecht
2013-01-11 14:58                         ` Dale
2013-01-06  4:01 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale

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