From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EFB138320 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71F2A21C081; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f43.google.com (mail-yh0-f43.google.com [209.85.213.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03657E0655 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 02:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 27so1055859yhr.30 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:08:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0RCBqTxYKDQzbUIA5KCM05arAxG1wc6Yy08vegRX9RI=; b=Ixe9J/M+g1v8fBnq7hrE6hBTVi2OOyUDVUv4gY5fiV7mlXIt/Krjx8jO8XlIIgt2sa s9ypjVcN6E2iAZeq8S0TUErXuuTpv86IaMMH1KCdaUVq+RApg7i3mikOboG6zZSisgVd Nt50IDeYh+asR/yIsV8PeWnI9Q+OUMWrjUgvs5vfGnSYULK3xeKZHiUNR5T8e+eNeW1X rL2zgqonkbKisLDZ2MrLbU13laxufFRXV09KE0X5Ypi4433pn0x4aDkmV9iGGFlfGpWY lWeicMni7dKd8a/JqoD9As1DbpJT4aDTw23EuWHOi0Frwm079gtVLlqrzJn0uPXA4bqK H+dA== X-Received: by 10.236.91.173 with SMTP id h33mr65684578yhf.120.1357524504153; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-94-18.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.94.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d66sm65099750yhe.1.2013.01.06.18.08.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:08:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50EA2E15.4020006@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:08:21 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore References: <201301061119.56710.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <50EA2364.4080604@gmail.com> <50EA2A8D.3040203@iinet.net.au> In-Reply-To: <50EA2A8D.3040203@iinet.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: aa1e650a-db4e-4660-aca2-7340e8523930 X-Archives-Hash: c7c039482d95c60c3274d8477c6279de William Kenworthy wrote: > On 07/01/13 09:44, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure that is a bug. As I posted earlier, this was changed a >>> good while back. There was a reason for it but I can't recall what it >>> was. The new devices for CD/DVDs is /dev/sr*. I don't have, and have >>> not had, /dev/cdrom or dvd on this rig for a good while and it works. I >>> think this happened about the same time as the hard drive devices were >>> changed from hd* to sd* even for old IDE drives. Since it was changed >>> on purpose, I don't believe this is a bug. >>> >>> Dale >> >> Might be true but how about digging up some references that this was >> done on purpose. It makes little sense to me that if someone did this >> on purpose, breaking lots of old scripts, leaving broken udev rules >> laying about and just assuming everyone would figure it out without so >> much and a news item then I'd say it was done pretty badly. >> >> Again, if it truly was 'on purpose' as you say then that's OK, but >> let's not create too much false history here. In my mind it's just as >> reasonable that it's just a mistake or someone that was overlooked, >> but I'm totally open to you showing us what we all missed. >> > Seems like the cabal has been busy again ... its not a bug but a feature! > > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/hotplug/udev.git;a=commit;h=19b66dc57cce27175ff421c4c3a37e4a491b9c01 > > Also some hits on gentoo forums etc which imply that when actually > merged, the rules file was not included.. > > This did happen awhile back and I just moved to /dev/sr0 and got on with > life so didnt go into it in too much detail. > > BillK > This is not Gentoo specific but I found this in a search that is just getting started: http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover So, it did happen when switching from old IDE based drivers to the newer, some claim improved, PATA/SATA drivers. It appears the kernel started this but still searching for confirmation. Like Bill, when it was changed, I just updated the device information in my programs and went on. It was the new way and it seemed it was going to be around for a good long while. It looks like people who have created scripts are going to have to fire up vi or nano and do a little updating. Going to search some more to get a better source. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!