From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DD41381F3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8584021C0CF; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gg0-f181.google.com (mail-gg0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3666221C022 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gg0-f181.google.com with SMTP id s6so815597ggc.40 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:19:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=odY+SsDcXJT+O18nMUhofT1TcBxfUfA5eHVsTWjkUwk=; b=N9wbhE3lix8y56MgSvN9MFXL6j8mMJ9sx3JhKSlflMbiwdSji0cEMfGze8AnyPZr6L PoCJj0R7BPk0pA5Q84Up0WRG+Dwj+rF9sBS6uQceWOyAgnnCZygyOsVNomzCZF/F9BW9 5zioYkL+az2ptnaXVns6KJfPY52e2WVquzksqU31+3ctm74R2e9gjd87OcFYdnINqqj7 nyy+/LxP+3xmUcSKB6WK1/27ezmSMymHtdg19y1MMsJ7S6PRF9SimZvIY7TJVcQcolvf LB+4mC2eLi+Bq2n2x4oPG5cE7/41W4v6G0kchtFtxEPUulv369lIHYkA+/FXSwU1O726 mOjg== Received: by 10.100.76.20 with SMTP id y20mr1976025ana.75.1355519996398; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-94-18.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.94.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v4sm5270713ank.9.2012.12.14.13.19.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:19:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50CB97F9.7080808@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:19:53 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M. References: <20121214161821.GA19095@crowfix.com> <20121214195143.GF19095@crowfix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2d70390e-0707-43a4-8827-f9d917f84770 X-Archives-Hash: db188680a3e6a7e2405817877f74ca2c Michael Mol wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, wrote: >> I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it did. >> >> It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the hint, grab a clue, and start researching a replacement. > I think you'll find the power consumption of modern systems absolutely > delightful compared to 8yo systems. I was amazed to see that > server-grade xeon CPUs can be had for ~250USD, with a 77W TDP. 5-6 > years ago, my Phenom 9650 was a 120TDP part for almost that much when > not on sale. (Yes, I know Intel and AMD don't calculate their thermal > data quite the same way, but it seems comperable enough.) > > -- > :wq > > I agree. My old rig, AMD 2500+ CPU with about 2Gbs of ram, a couple hard drives and a FX-5200 video card pulled about 400 watts or so, not counting the monitor. My new rig, AMD 4 core 3.2Ghz CPU, 16Gbs of ram, 4 hard drives and a GT-220 1Gb video card and it pulls less than 150 watts and just barely over 200 watts when compiling something and using the drives a lot while doing it. That includes a LCD monitor too. My old rig had a CRT monitor. Power hog big time which is why I didn't add it to the power being pulled. I did some math, my new rig is almost 8 times faster/powerful than my old rig but pulls much less than half the power even when fully loaded. I might add, I think the old rig was idle when I measured that. I bet you could find some really old and cheap mobos, say a year or two old but still new out of the box, and build a cheap system and have a lot more powerful system that pulls less power from the wall. I saw a Gigabyte mobo the other day on newegg for like $40.00. I'm sure the model is a year or two old but still, its better than a 8 year old. Also, memory is cheap for those too. Most likely the CPU would be too. Sure is a weird problem tho. Sounds like something I would run into myself. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!