From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A307A1381F3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 039D721C092; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6397C21C0E1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A21209A4 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:34:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=fpMTPkyWfkJXxyIYhMBUrvKX gHE=; b=poSKW2tCq+LfEOC3MJpkCV9STpM9y7wCchYnGv9BaWCm1mYryFqqXL/A tP0J1G2BwtFUrIaw7TtHveaLmGXS5v3HjlKUmHkFC7CpPSQn45olBElIXalphKic mOAn/URft3LSFwdvXO1gpDZldulMi0+QmxY9c3IaZbSFerxNz7g= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=fpMT PkyWfkJXxyIYhMBUrvKXgHE=; b=pj2Xmfh5y19QUZ1cApbl8TvJInRVUINZ6pe2 /ghD/54fNhYBQVhAb1CZBCuvJvkSBngZa6INaLmz+/IT6Gr+t+jDfZvfT4l2F1d+ gjftNykEA4E1/yA39zsSq69h8ZCCrbO/9wrAey5dUKQjM46XlFfyWG38TjjcCeHv 2h7lFPw= X-Sasl-enc: YCWMp0MF3Nb05hdJjJSRQLCP2AJWvUalEg0r+wA6R5zF 1355502848 Received: from [192.168.5.18] (unknown [83.169.5.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9ACC78E0690 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:34:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50CB54F8.1090205@binarywings.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:34:00 +0100 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.11) Gecko/20121130 Thunderbird/10.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server? References: <50CAE9D4.4000402@binarywings.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig39B6197FF4FD9BFD4E880C06" X-Archives-Salt: 1a678afc-273f-480d-bd4f-17e421b8b5c9 X-Archives-Hash: 090288f8079b5adc2efa78bda7acade5 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig39B6197FF4FD9BFD4E880C06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 14.12.2012 11:00, schrieb Grant: >> > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud >> > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server= >> > concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at t= he >> > same price point far outperforms it. >> > >> > - Grant >> >> Last time I did the calculation, a dedicated or normal virtualized >> infrastructure was more cost effective as long as you could accurately= >> predict the performance you need. >> >> Cloud services only really help if you need a high dynamic range >> regarding scale and performance, e.g. a service that could get a lot o= f >> new users very fast or is only really active for short time spans. >=20 > Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability > compared to dedicated? >=20 > - Grant I'd be grateful if anyone can point me at a well conducted study on that topic. Until then I just say that my anecdotal evidence shows the opposite: My cheap-ass virtual server has an uptime of 492 days with only minor, previously announced network outages. During the same time, Amazon EC2 had what, 3 or 4 major outages? Regards, Florian Philipp --------------enig39B6197FF4FD9BFD4E880C06 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDLVPwACgkQqs4uOUlOuU9BRACeLs13vR64Mpv8KxYKLNSZYfNj L+YAn3coBQS2anmE5MZB9HowSJV0xQKQ =Hfwm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig39B6197FF4FD9BFD4E880C06--