From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749FC1381F3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7391F21C0AA; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ye0-f181.google.com (mail-ye0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B261821C023 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f181.google.com with SMTP id r11so4046yen.40 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:45:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yYy9XDo5TwAE5o2btjji+hIiD6DeXWiTMyBOUQxcPoE=; b=YyUDgnChL5TNXECZ4jF/B7RO7f/9HvYMntIx5JsMSxsOHNQzPao3CagbWGeFBycraA 14wwdKLg4MmEAHRfPcsieASdiMdoKJSPjKyLRZTrB5aRwbpZ85JYRFovdFdZvGjnffsX SEHWbXPLePtjp1m037DZIq0UrZDgY2+gCDDwygTg9QwKv/BsibPtSDtH2tn37Lb8G+z4 feGXAlnMcV5GhS4nzBGokGf+EIi43n2X3pBb7X9OBEEpPJrlgVWx+AGyXiuV2Bv+QH4m ZxjuIBz57WBeQOCnlBr3k0SH1u1I5TA2L1H3tY0Evz5uhLEIdN9wFD6Iim9e9A6cWrnC 3HgA== Received: by 10.236.151.13 with SMTP id a13mr19097774yhk.53.1352868310916; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-92-157.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.92.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l17sm10720070ank.4.2012.11.13.20.45.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:45:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50A321D4.8010307@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:45:08 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121106 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> <50A1BC8A.2060607@gmail.com> <20121114025754.GA7408@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c650e36a-f475-4a71-a38b-1c7b9c69725a X-Archives-Hash: 5fd737cf9ac82617f61d5fe5e9bc2a67 Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > LOL > > Now seriously: > > You should follow the discussion in -project. Someone (I forgot who > exactly) has made a personal commitment to within a month produce a > serviceable udev fork, at least a Proof of Concept. And IIRC, hwoarang > is going to 'test the waters' with Debian people. > > So, this is not a pipe dream. It's happening, code will be produced, > ... and I bet some people will get offended ;-) > > Rgds, > -- > I'm sure some will be offended but it's no different when we heard about the change that was coming. A lot of us were not happy then either. Thing is, we now have two paths. One that keeps the FHS like it was with a separate /usr if we like and one where you have to have /usr on / or use a initramfs thingy. Now both can be happy while this idea gets tested. If the way udev is going flops, then they will come back. If udev works out for a lot of people, we will have two ways to do things. I think at some point, the new way will hit a road block and things will break, maybe not for binary distros but for others. When that time comes, they will have to try to figure out a way to get things back to the way they were. Time will tell tho. I'm just glad to see the project getting started. Test both ways and see which one works out best. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!