From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DB41381F3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C51E021C027; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ye0-f181.google.com (mail-ye0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F20521C008 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f181.google.com with SMTP id r11so1349519yen.40 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:23:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0axgMj9J0HtJrqN+fo8TlAD6jMQMfn07ZRyY9++37rQ=; b=votPx8PI/00tJ58ToAeCV/VJXwkONtbslMmhcecRjgHVzCGaKKtfSFngW6wgYP+Awn ckcd+UXXDvmQuPYg+AVLlwXLNqdyLmmgbg0DqtppA/Lx4K1h/Gu8E7jigqvrrEpUJtL5 U5BXU65NWHGj9V0+dLV13OGrSDXKyvA+TNu7YylUanbyCq5KAzQr8Pmv6CsQhQYtsICC G6ra6MCYCVKTaiH6MY1cRsROf207XnmBzJP/X648aNKe/A6yJ3XSEq0A1dUZ/Rx8X+W8 1t9u4xp1Iv29KOpVBHRNMo87Ug1mIlD+6Ndw178LyQ/kl08fDkFDBvfnauJHM8MHCUR6 WyiA== Received: by 10.236.73.198 with SMTP id v46mr22432751yhd.80.1352798598369; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-107-27.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.107.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n12sm8252315ani.7.2012.11.13.01.23.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:23:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50A21182.6070504@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:23:14 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121106 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> <50A1BC8A.2060607@gmail.com> <50A207C9.8020502@hadt.biz> In-Reply-To: <50A207C9.8020502@hadt.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fc4fe8e9-e4f7-4e6c-a7ec-f667fa722ae6 X-Archives-Hash: e65cfa4a4dd748ad74f2fb94dfa9ff43 Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 13.11.2012 04:20, schrieb Dale: >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization >> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:40:53 -0500 >> From: Richard Yao >> Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org >> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org >> >> >> Richard Yao wrote: >> >>> Dear Everyone, >>> >>> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev >>> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes >>> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance >>> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes >>> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' >>> >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 >>> >>> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' >>> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to >>> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other >>> things. We will announce the project later this week. >>> >>> I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related to >>> udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another >>> month so that we have time to get organized? >>> >>> Yours truly, >>> Richard Yao >>> >> Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. >> >> I wonder what they will name it tho. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> > What about gdev (gentoo dev) :) > > That could work but since Linus thinks it is stupid the way udev is headed, I was thinking about smartdev. That would be the opposite of stupiddev I guess. lol I don't care what the name is, I just hope it works out not only for Gentoo but for other distros that don't like the direction udev is going. Thanks to Richard and everyone else who is going to be working on this. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!