From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EC61381F3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBB72E0630; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ye0-f181.google.com (mail-ye0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9A64E0521 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f181.google.com with SMTP id r11so1330652yen.40 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:20:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:x-forwarded-message-id:content-type; bh=9IrFwxYwIkTcYPSqBRUorJX/pWyCnfNIrcFDq/h0JLs=; b=h5lbH/1TlbIWUuZ/jcdKS01NhGRgrCvVwJ7i5BUAPCJbRJSjDpD3tZZXn1NmA6d8Cx /ggDWkh7kOpQ/1/FqlKL6ZCEBipnBaQjssc1GmdyGC0XpmBVNMtKNkIEOGAG+PFvbcEM 3cj0LVX6AVO0BXGiSvkj0JS3MOllKSADnrDDA3o7I2JV5IysJa8NWqZD5y8mnSuCoDzn TUnMGqF2kusAsaq/5ADi1aec64SnVrAV+aeit7t8mWIu4Gb1dTfehZZCbmFgU9MmXpPf 3iXCto///laJebXrmKkPUArQ1OqQ2c7UAa8jVMq+Uf/CCMQ19rJSkXyu4mA7YqmBTnwH lWwg== Received: by 10.236.86.43 with SMTP id v31mr21659687yhe.62.1352776847052; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-107-27.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.107.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u21sm8683001yhl.6.2012.11.12.19.20.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:20:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50A1BC8A.2060607@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:20:42 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121106 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gentoo User Subject: [gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080209020709090907030202" X-Archives-Salt: 3cff2a8d-d7f9-4dd4-87a3-c34a1a946c6e X-Archives-Hash: 69136aa60a90ad2f630337553333a279 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080209020709090907030202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:40:53 -0500 From: Richard Yao Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Richard Yao wrote: > Dear Everyone, > > It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev > has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes > Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance > seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes > that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 > > After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' > concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to > eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other > things. We will announce the project later this week. > > I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related to > udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another > month so that we have time to get organized? > > Yours truly, > Richard Yao > Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev. Yeppie !! Me, I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run when it gets ready. Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope. I wonder what they will name it tho. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! --------------080209020709090907030202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:40:53 -0500
From: Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org>
Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org

Richard Yao wrote:
Dear Everyone,

It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev
has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes
Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes
that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.'

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505

After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus'
concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to
eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other
things. We will announce the project later this week.

I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related to
udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another
month so that we have time to get organized?

Yours truly,
Richard Yao



Well, it appears we have someone willing to fork udev.  Yeppie !!   Me, I'm looking forward to seeing how this works and giving it a test run when it gets ready.  Since it is a fork, shouldn't be to long, I hope.  

I wonder what they will name it tho.  

Dale

:-)  :-)  

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
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