From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C89C1381F3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBFE521C05E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.alltele.net (smtp.alltele.net [85.30.0.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A27E521C05A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([87.227.57.71]) by smtp.alltele.net (IceWarp 10.4.3) with ESMTP id VXN60917 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:28:17 +0100 Message-ID: <509F99F3.7060405@coolmail.se> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:28:35 +0100 From: pk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.10) Gecko/20121108 Thunderbird/10.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) References: <509DB5E2.5010407@gmail.com> <509EB17D.7050908@coolmail.se> <2592463.C9mGjqLMLj@gentoo> In-Reply-To: <2592463.C9mGjqLMLj@gentoo> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.57 required=5.10 tests=LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=1.56,SMILEY=-0.50,NO_RDNS2=0.01,MR_DIFF_MID=0.50 version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (1.1) on smtp.alltele.net X-CTCH: RefID="str=0001.0A0B0208.509F99F5.0088,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0"; Spam="Unknown"; VOD="Unknown" X-Archives-Salt: 129d0e5c-ba56-4e80-9bdd-2e674a1cf2ea X-Archives-Hash: 048bdb025c5db322686c2568c5335579 On 2012-11-11 08:33, 微蔡 wrote: > byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you. Ah, instead of a rational explanation of what kind of problem systemd solves for me you conclude: I'm a hater?... Well, I do hate solutions looking for problems to solve, especially where there are none to solve, and especially being forced into using them. So, I conclude: "The community doesn't need people like YOU!" > Then find something to boost the BIOS. Yeah , UEFI goes out, and you > say: BIOS is fine with me , I don't need UEFI. I'm running UEFI here (which runs on top of BIOS) on two motherboards. If you think UEFI replaces BIOS, research it[1][2]. Yes, it's intended to replace BIOS sometime (most likely very far) in the future. [1]:http://www.extremetech.com/computing/96985-demystifying-uefi-the-long-overdue-bios-replacement [2]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFI For the record, I have bought equipment that can be made compatible with coreboot, which I intend to "install" when I can find the time. coreboot is a true BIOS replacement (basically it focuses on just initialising the hardware and let "payloads" setup whatever services are needed). Solving the "BIOS" problem permanently and with technical elegance. So yes, I will replace UEFI/BIOS sometime in the future... > You maybe paid by some Linux hate company to express like this. Hm... maybe you're paid by some Linux hate company to destroy it from within (also known as "astroturfer")? I see you have a fedora mail address so why are you here on a Gentoo-list? Trying to push an agenda/preach? PS. I used to think Redhat was a really good "open source citizen" (I even used their distro in the late 90'ies), and they still are in some respects, but forcing, in my eyes, inferior technology onto the Linux world is not ok, IMO. Best regards Peter K