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[98.95.107.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l17sm1975993ank.4.2012.11.10.12.21.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:21:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <509EB74C.7090401@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:21:32 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121106 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware References: <7885637.QX3RlLjMPf@energy> <509E057E.7030105@gmail.com> <4427742.pSD8YMFbeH@energy> <509E34EF.9080309@gmail.com> <509E3A6D.3060400@hadt.biz> <509E406B.6090107@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 746751b0-596b-4b02-a827-70db24592f8b X-Archives-Hash: 4433f0544017ad9be274d67cddc607b3 James wrote: > Dale gmail.com> writes: > > >> I guess it is good for the folks that use water cooling tho. I run >> plenty cool and quiet with air so I'm not planning to switch. I still >> like my CPUs to be bare when possible then purchase my cooler separately. > For me, it's basic thermodynamics. Water as a (liquid at working temperatures) > fluid, moves orders of magnitude more heat than air (as working fluid) does, > Sure Glycol or TEG (Tetraethylene Glycol) is best, but I do not have time > to find a non corrosive, non conducting fluid in lieu of water (although Silicone > brake fluid or DOT-5 might just do the trick). Sorry for the digression..... > > The only caveat, is to get a cooling system, that is made of robust, quality > components. Also, monitoring the temperature is important, and it'd be > nice to have a micro pressure transmitter, downstream of the pumping mechanism > to ensure no leaks by detecting tiny leaks BEFORE they happen (delta-P). > > The quite nature of water cooling is keen for me (old ears do not > filter out noise so well anymore....) > > I see other AMD processors (FX8150) with a water cooler included, but not the > FX8350? (googling came up short).... on Amazon or elsewhere for sale. > > I did find this: > http://www.asetek.com/liquid-cpu-cooling.html > > suggesting on cost effective water cooling for the FX8350? > > James > > > > > Well, my air cooling system is quiet. I can't hear the fans. Actually, the top case fan makes more noise when it is cool than when it is warm and spinning fast. I think it is out of balance and wobbles around in there when spinning slow. I have to either make it go faster or buy a new fan. Anyway, while compiling something like LOo, gcc or something that takes a long while and really uses the CPU, the highest temp I have ever seen is 105F for the CPU and it was pretty warm in this room so I turned on the A/C. That temp is on air. Again, I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 case with the giant 230mm fans. I'm serious, my bed is like 3 feet away and I can NOT hear the computer at all, not even when compiling something when the room is warm. Also, I don't like liquids around my computer. I keep a glass of sweet tea on the head of my bed but I NEVER place any liquid close enough it could spill on my computer. I don't even trust myself because accidents happen. I just don't like water or other liquids around my computer. I never have and likely never will. As long as a CPU can be cooled by air, I plan to use air. This is my cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118059 I bought the best cooler I could get at the time that was within reason price wise. It's large, efficient, has a large quiet fan and it does a really good job on temps. I also used a really good thermal compound too. I'm not saying others shouldn't use water, I'm just saying I don't plan to use it until I have no choice but to. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!