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From: pk <peterk2@coolmail.se>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:56:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <509EB17D.7050908@coolmail.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <509DB5E2.5010407@gmail.com>

On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote:

> :)  systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to
> stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all.

Yes, systemd may be coming and may even become mandatory for the Linux
kernel (given it's marriage with udev). when that comes, I'd rather go
*BSD or even Windows for that matter. The current plan is going mdev,
following Walter Dnes fine example, when I can find the time (perhaps
during xmas).

> The emotions started running high when Lennart pushed pulseaudio on us
> awhile ago, and he's doing it again now with systemd.  I didn't see the
> purpose for pulse until I (finally) bought a new computer with audio
> hardware I'd never seen before, and then I finally understood why he
> invented this silly pulse nonsense.

I don't use pulseaudio and never will. Alsa is working fine, using
hardware mixer. I really don't understand why you would want to use a
second layer on top of the hardware driver, I thought we gave that up
years ago, abandoning the ESD and aRts.

> I still don't quite understand the entire motivation behind systemd but
> I'll bet it will become obvious to me in the future.

I'm sure...

> A speedy reboot is very nice for those of use who compile and test a new
> kernel from Linus every morning and file kernel bug reports when
> appropriate. If I do find a kernel bug I may need to recompile/reboot
> many times as quickly as my machine can do it, so saving 15-20 seconds
> per reboot cycle just feels less painful :)

Ok. For me, when booting, the most time spent is in the bios cycle.
Booting from grub takes maybe 5-10 seconds...

> I didn't intend to preach, I intended to brag that I got it working :p

Ok, I just read it as "preaching" but I guess you can see it that way
too. I was just a bit tired I guess, sorry!

Best regards

Peter K


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-10 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 22:53 [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) walt
2012-11-09 23:13 ` pk
2012-11-10  0:14   ` Dale
2012-11-10  1:11     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-10  1:42       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-10  2:26         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  1:53         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  1:57           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  2:58             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  3:07               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  3:27                 ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  4:14                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 21:40                     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 22:11                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:11                         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:16                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:25                             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:42                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:53                                 ` Keith Dart
2012-11-13  0:59                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13  3:03                                     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:21                         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-10  2:30       ` Dale
2012-11-10  2:46         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-11-10  3:01           ` Dale
2012-11-10  6:54       ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-10  7:17         ` 微蔡
2012-11-10  7:32           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-10  0:24   ` 微蔡
2012-11-10  2:03   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-11-10 19:56     ` pk [this message]
2012-11-11  7:33       ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 11:09         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 12:03           ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 12:31             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-11 12:49             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 13:22               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-11 13:32                 ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 14:16                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 23:33                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  0:03                     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12  0:20                       ` Dale
2012-11-12  0:23                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  0:24                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  0:26                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  0:56                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  1:11                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:06                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  1:14                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:28                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  1:50                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  2:36                               ` Dale
2012-11-12  3:02                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  3:14                                   ` Dale
2012-11-12  5:16                                   ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:48                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  5:12                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:47                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:57                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  2:17                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  8:20                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  8:37                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  9:36                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12 18:00                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 18:26                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-13 18:30                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 21:26                                     ` Cr0k
2012-11-13 21:45                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-13 22:43                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-13 22:51                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-13 22:57                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 23:08                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-14  2:26                                               ` Hilco Wijbenga
2012-11-14 21:15                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-11-12 12:09                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 18:04                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  5:21                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:47                             ` Dale
2012-11-12  9:37                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12  9:53                               ` Dale
2012-11-12 11:59                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 12:28                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12 12:51                                   ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 18:08                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 19:33                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-19 19:30                                   ` Tanstaafl
2012-11-12 17:29                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-12 18:21                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 19:28                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12 19:47                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-11 12:24           ` Jorge Almeida
2012-11-11 13:38             ` pk
2012-11-11 13:59               ` Jorge Almeida
2012-11-11 14:17                 ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 14:36                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-11-11 12:28         ` pk
2012-11-11 12:52           ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 13:45             ` pk
2012-11-12  1:53           ` Peter Humphrey
2012-11-12  3:14             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras

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