From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A881381F3 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E27B21C09C; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14CAD21C004 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j6so4488931oag.40 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:14:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sRFeOft745k6uWsFSDHKdMo8/wYatdgaFDcj8xDj7Ms=; b=uNgfphpESukLwL82agxA0KOfk4YC46QblJaMEMvAEUriiTuK3Y05+9LwBY127tb2KX iYVo9OfhinvR1Bz8/TsiD0MDwnVWwb/51sVGXoSnTIxWRqFmIAFjEPZMDkGxqR3e2zi3 dyxP8mrgyESjDncIGSzh3GbwjNkmn+VRoPxQFNPAROES9IDSdtbzQTdvPE7d59ailgE3 X/OwUyXQ/q0I3vJrFR47FcBeovT870fSwVYOybadR+2o0k6BoaQBjM2AB6NBia4Yoee3 F1tunCLoat/KaIRwKoeyZC8W001XPVGa2GuFYxVoN4vKBez5lRaUmh1xCc+edy3/7ufo PxbA== Received: by 10.60.171.164 with SMTP id av4mr9205861oec.59.1352506469312; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-92-175.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.92.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id yn8sm27294obb.12.2012.11.09.16.14.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:14:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:14:26 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121106 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) References: <509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se> In-Reply-To: <509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5adf0d17-fda3-46a4-864f-0fc9928a63e2 X-Archives-Hash: e0ba94d83f9ed3a60bc36e921bd5c443 pk wrote: > On 2012-11-09 23:53, walt wrote: > >> You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;) >> now I think he's not so bad after all. He just doesn't know yet how to >> explain things properly to old farts. > Good for you. I really don't see the point in preaching systemd's > greatness (or Lennart's). I'm not going to try it anyway. Also, I really > don't see a point in booting fast (and I don't see anything wrong with > openrc). So why do you feel the need to preach? Just curious... > > Best regards > > Peter K > > I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is why: root@fireball / # uptime 18:09:00 up 48 days, 11:18, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.25, 0.30 root@fireball / # As long as the local power company gives me power, I'm running. My rig, fast as it might be, pulls significantly less power than my old rig that is only about a tenth as fast. So, faster rig, less power. I can handle that. As long as I can have good uptimes, I just don't see any need to convert to something I only use once every couple months. Now for someone who has to reboot a lot, sounds windowish doesn't it, then by all means convert to systemd or whatever suites your fancy. As always, what works for one doesn't suite the needs of another. That's why we use Gentoo. We get to use what suites us. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!