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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 0d58305b-fe13-4c8e-afe4-afe1e6eb34c8 X-Archives-Hash: 9c4607a8150ec7b7751d9366df888f88 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:53 PM Dale wrote: >> It took some digging around but I found out it is a AMD Phenom 9750 quad >> core. > You might want to hook a Kill-a-watt to that and see how much power it > uses. Those older AMD processors were really inefficient. > > One thing I've come to appreciate with anything that runs 24x7 is to > consider the energy bill to run things. That's why the bulk of my > storage is running on ARM SBCs. Those things use almost no power when > idle, while even a modern amd64 system will often use more at idle > than an ARM will at full load. > > Most of the newer CPUs are MUCH better in performance per watt as > well. A server that uses just 50W 24x7 costs about $65/yr (and I have > pretty cheap electricity due to a 1yr contract - odds are it costs > quite a bit more for most of this list). That's a fairly significant > amount of money so it can pay to optimize things, especially if you > replace what was a power-hungry performance CPU from 10 years ago with > a lower-end CPU from today that probably has double the performance > for 10% of the power draw. Obviously if you want bleeding edge the > electricity bill won't cover the up-front costs, but lower end CPUs > are very cost-effective and efficient compared to really old systems > that people tend to use for these kinds of projects. > My UPS has a power meter thing on it which is pretty close.  It shows a little over 100 watts for rig and monitor to when running.  Given it is winter time here, I don't mind the extra heat.  It's either the puter or a heater.  Given the forecast, I'm considering a emerge -e world pretty soon.  lol  This NAS box won't run 24/7 tho.  I'll run it when I update backups then shut it down and maybe even move it to a out building.  Once I build a Raspberry thingy, I may have one as a 24/7 NAS box and take some load off my main rig.  That I would like to have more efficiency with.  That's for later tho.  First, I want to build a small one that will fit in my fire safe.  Of course, I still want a larger safe so that maybe I can have a 6 bay NAS box.  I wish I could find a commercial or bank type safe that is used.  If it isn't to heavy.  I still remember my old AMD 2500+ single core rig.  That thing pulled over 400 watts idle.  If I was compiling a lot and all the fans were running plus hard drives were busy, it would pull even more, close to 500 watts or something.  It's been a while but I remember winters were nice but summers made the A/C run a good bit longer.  Thing is, my current rig is much faster, likely 10 times faster, and pulls less than 200 watts even if at full power plus I have a LOT more hard drives.  It goes to show, you can't measure computer power by what it pulls from the wall.  :-) If I like these Raspberry things, may make a media box out of one.  I'd like to have a remote tho.  ;-) Dale :-)  :-)