[gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Peter Humphrey]

Greetings,

Simple question, which I ought to be able to answer myself:

I want to use the binpkg of www-client/firefox, but there isn't one with 
L10N="en-GB", which is in make.conf because that's where I live (if you see 
what I mean). How can I set the equivalent of L10N="-en-GB"?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Simple question, which I ought to be able to answer myself:
>
> I want to use the binpkg of www-client/firefox, but there isn't one with 
> L10N="en-GB", which is in make.conf because that's where I live (if you see 
> what I mean). How can I set the equivalent of L10N="-en-GB"?
>


Am I seeing the wrong thing??? 



root@Gentoo-1 / # equery u firefox
[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[        : I - package is installed with flag     ]
[ Colors : set, unset                             ]
 * Found these USE flags for www-client/firefox-128.14.0:
 U I
<<< SNIP >>>
 - - l10n_en-CA       : English (Canada)
 - - l10n_en-GB       : English (United Kingdom)  <<<<<<<<<<<<
 - - l10n_eo          : Esperanto
<<< SNIP >>>
root@Gentoo-1 / #


That could be something different but it looks like what you want. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday, 24 August 2025 17:15:32 British Summer Time Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > Simple question, which I ought to be able to answer myself:
> > 
> > I want to use the binpkg of www-client/firefox, but there isn't one with
> > L10N="en-GB", which is in make.conf because that's where I live (if you
> > see
> > what I mean). How can I set the equivalent of L10N="-en-GB"?
> 
> Am I seeing the wrong thing??? 
> 
> 
> 
> root@Gentoo-1 / # equery u firefox
> [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
> [        : I - package is installed with flag     ]
> [ Colors : set, unset                             ]
>  * Found these USE flags for www-client/firefox-128.14.0:
>  U I
> <<< SNIP >>>
>  - - l10n_en-CA       : English (Canada)
>  - - l10n_en-GB       : English (United Kingdom)  <<<<<<<<<<<<
>  - - l10n_eo          : Esperanto
> <<< SNIP >>>
> root@Gentoo-1 / #
> 
> 
> That could be something different but it looks like what you want. 

No Dale, it's the opposite. I want firefox to be emerged /without/ en-GB.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Stefan Schmiedl]

------ Original Message ------
From "Peter Humphrey" <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
To gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Date 24.08.2025 18:23:29
Subject Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

>On Sunday, 24 August 2025 17:15:32 British Summer Time Dale wrote:
>>  Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>  > Greetings,
>>  >
>>  > Simple question, which I ought to be able to answer myself:
>>  >
>>  > I want to use the binpkg of www-client/firefox, but there isn't one with
>>  > L10N="en-GB", which is in make.conf because that's where I live (if you
>>  > see
>>  > what I mean). How can I set the equivalent of L10N="-en-GB"?
>>
>>  Am I seeing the wrong thing???
>>
>>
>>
>>  root@Gentoo-1 / # equery u firefox
>>  [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
>>  [        : I - package is installed with flag     ]
>>  [ Colors : set, unset                             ]
>>   * Found these USE flags for www-client/firefox-128.14.0:
>>   U I
>>  <<< SNIP >>>
>>   - - l10n_en-CA       : English (Canada)
>>   - - l10n_en-GB       : English (United Kingdom)  <<<<<<<<<<<<
>>   - - l10n_eo          : Esperanto
>>  <<< SNIP >>>
>>  root@Gentoo-1 / #
>>
>>
>>  That could be something different but it looks like what you want.
>
>No Dale, it's the opposite. I want firefox to be emerged /without/ en-GB.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Peter.
echo "www-client/firefox-bin L10N: -de" >> /etc/portage/package.use

worked for me to disable localization for "de"

s.

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday, 24 August 2025 17:15:32 British Summer Time Dale wrote:
>> Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Simple question, which I ought to be able to answer myself:
>>>
>>> I want to use the binpkg of www-client/firefox, but there isn't one with
>>> L10N="en-GB", which is in make.conf because that's where I live (if you
>>> see
>>> what I mean). How can I set the equivalent of L10N="-en-GB"?
>> Am I seeing the wrong thing??? 
>>
>>
>>
>> root@Gentoo-1 / # equery u firefox
>> [ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
>> [        : I - package is installed with flag     ]
>> [ Colors : set, unset                             ]
>>  * Found these USE flags for www-client/firefox-128.14.0:
>>  U I
>> <<< SNIP >>>
>>  - - l10n_en-CA       : English (Canada)
>>  - - l10n_en-GB       : English (United Kingdom)  <<<<<<<<<<<<
>>  - - l10n_eo          : Esperanto
>> <<< SNIP >>>
>> root@Gentoo-1 / #
>>
>>
>> That could be something different but it looks like what you want. 
> No Dale, it's the opposite. I want firefox to be emerged /without/ en-GB.
>


Well, that should be easy enough.  To add to Stefan's reply.  In
package.use, just put this:


www-client/firefox -l10n_en-GB 


Note the minus sign in front.  O_O  And then either use equery or emerge -pv or -av firefox to see if it is going to apply like you want.  That should work unless I'm missing something.  Oh, if you already have a line for firefox, make sure you add to the existing line.  I've found having two lines for the same packages can behave in a weird way.  I think it confuses emerge.  

Dale 

:-)  :-)  

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Eli Schwartz]

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On 8/24/25 11:53 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> Simple question, which I ought to be able to answer myself:
> 
> I want to use the binpkg of www-client/firefox, but there isn't one with 
> L10N="en-GB", which is in make.conf because that's where I live (if you see 
> what I mean). How can I set the equivalent of L10N="-en-GB"?


The binhost doesn't provide locale pack variants for any packages,
firefox or otherwise. If nothing else, this would be tremendous bloat.

The last time this came up where I saw it -- a couple weeks ago,
2025-08-05 -- I had suggested to the firefox package maintainer that it
might make sense to do like libreoffice, have no L10N flags at all but
simply depend on "www-clients/firefox-l10n" so that people could modify
their L10N without rebuilding the source code. The maintainer agreed it
initially sounds like a good idea, but AFAIK hasn't had time to work on
exploring it yet.


-- 
Eli Schwartz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday, 24 August 2025 20:40:38 British Summer Time Eli Schwartz wrote:

> The binhost doesn't provide locale pack variants for any packages,
> firefox or otherwise. If nothing else, this would be tremendous bloat.

Yes, I can see that.

> The last time this came up where I saw it -- a couple weeks ago,
> 2025-08-05 -- I had suggested to the firefox package maintainer that it
> might make sense to do like libreoffice, have no L10N flags at all but
> simply depend on "www-clients/firefox-l10n" so that people could modify
> their L10N without rebuilding the source code. The maintainer agreed it
> initially sounds like a good idea, but AFAIK hasn't had time to work on
> exploring it yet.

Good idea; let's look forward to it.

Meanwhile, I'll repeat an earlier question: how can I find out what binpkgs are 
available for a given category/package? Someone posted a way of doing that a 
few months ago, but I didn't write it down. I know I can see whether one is 
available for a certain set of USEs, but it would take a month of Sundays to 
go through all the possibilities in the case of Firefox.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Eli Schwartz]

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On 8/25/25 8:04 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Meanwhile, I'll repeat an earlier question: how can I find out what binpkgs are 
> available for a given category/package? Someone posted a way of doing that a 
> few months ago, but I didn't write it down. I know I can see whether one is 
> available for a certain set of USEs, but it would take a month of Sundays to 
> go through all the possibilities in the case of Firefox.


Quick and dirty: firefox has a USE=jumbo-build which certainly seems
unlikely to have a binpkg variant (what would the point be?) -- so let's
try disabling it:

$ USE="-jumbo-build" emerge -p =www-client/firefox-128.14.0

[ebuild  N     ] www-client/firefox-128.14.0  USE="X clang dbus
gmp-autoupdate system-av1 system-harfbuzz system-icu system-jpeg
system-libevent system-libvpx system-webp telemetry -debug -eme-free
-gnome-shell -hardened -hwaccel -jack -jumbo-build -libproxy -openh264
-pgo -pulseaudio (-selinux) -sndio -system-png -wasm-sandbox -wayland
-wifi" L10N="-ach -af -an -ar -ast -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca
-ca-valencia -cak -cs -cy -da -de -dsb -el -en-CA -en-GB -eo -es-AR
-es-CL -es-ES -es-MX -et -eu -fa -ff -fi -fr -fur -fy -ga -gd -gl -gn
-gu -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -hy -ia -id -is -it -ja -ka -kab -kk -km -kn
-ko -lij -lt -lv -mk -mr -ms -my -nb -ne -nl -nn -oc -pa -pl -pt-BR
-pt-PT -rm -ro -ru -sc -sco -si -sk -skr -sl -son -sq -sr -sv -szl -ta
-te -th -tl -tr -trs -uk -ur -uz -vi -xh -zh-CN -zh-TW" LLVM_SLOT="19
-17 -18"


This *forced* it to show as [ebuild] rather than [binary], which means
we get:

!!! The following binary packages have been ignored due to non matching USE:

    =www-client/firefox-128.14.0 gnome-shell jumbo-build pulseaudio wayland
    =www-client/firefox-128.14.0 gnome-shell jumbo-build pgo
    =www-client/firefox-128.14.0 gnome-shell jumbo-build pgo pulseaudio
    =www-client/firefox-128.14.0 gnome-shell jumbo-build pgo wayland
    =www-client/firefox-128.14.0 gnome-shell jumbo-build pgo pulseaudio
wayland
    =www-client/firefox-128.14.0 jumbo-build pulseaudio wayland


Those suggest the totality of distinct package.use options available,
e.g. base USE:

X clang dbus gmp-autoupdate system-av1 system-harfbuzz system-icu
system-jpeg system-libevent system-libvpx system-webp telemetry
LLVM_SLOT="19"

+

(first line) gnome-shell jumbo-build pulseaudio wayland

==

X clang dbus gmp-autoupdate system-av1 system-harfbuzz system-icu
system-jpeg system-libevent system-libvpx system-webp telemetry
gnome-shell jumbo-build pulseaudio wayland LLVM_SLOT="19"




You can also manually process the index with awk. I demoed this recently
at https://bugs.gentoo.org/961621#c10

Just change the /CPV:.*wxGTK/ that you are scanning for, e.g.

/CPV:.*www-client.firefox-128/


-- 
Eli Schwartz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 25 August 2025 14:25:08 British Summer Time Eli Schwartz wrote:

--->8

Er...

Not what I remembered, but it will do nicely.

Thanks Eli.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[David Bryant]

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On Monday, August 25, 2025 7:04:47 AM Central Daylight Time Peter Humphrey 
wrote:
> how can I find out what binpkgs are
> available for a given category/package?

You'll find a list of all the binary packages at the OSU web site.
https://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/amd64/binpackages/23.0/x86-64/
-- 
David Bryant
Canyon Lake, Texas

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting L10N for one package only

[Eli Schwartz]

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On 8/25/25 4:08 PM, David Bryant wrote:
> On Monday, August 25, 2025 7:04:47 AM Central Daylight Time Peter Humphrey 
> wrote:
>> how can I find out what binpkgs are
>> available for a given category/package?
> 
> You'll find a list of all the binary packages at the OSU web site.
> https://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/amd64/binpackages/23.0/x86-64/


That is a list of what category/package-versions are available.

The question was, for a given category/package-version, how does one
know what USE flag binary configurations are available. The listing on
the website does not tell you that -- it only has monotonically
incrementing integer IDs for "which numbered build is this".

USE flags can be found by *downloading* the entire collection of files,
untarring each one, and processing the portage metadata files contained
inside the binpackage. You don't want to download 6x the packages to
find that out.

I already pointed out a way to get the info as well, from a single
"Packages" index file, which is locally cached by portage already, at

/var/cache/edb/binhost/gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/amd64/binpackages/23.0/x86-64/Packages


-- 
Eli Schwartz

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