[gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Tamer Higazi]

Hi people!
I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.

First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or
should I keep my fingers away of it?!

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml

doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any official
documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags etc....


for any advise I would thank you.


Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100
Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi people!
> I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.
> 
> First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or
> should I keep my fingers away of it?!
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml
> 
> doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any
> official documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags
> etc....
> 
> 
> for any advise I would thank you.

What sort of information are you looking for?

gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just

emerge -av gnome

and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?


-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi people!
> I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.
>
> First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or
> should I keep my fingers away of it?!
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml
>
> doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any official
> documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags etc....

I don't think any part of the GNOME 3.x stack is masked anymore, but
it is still unstable. GNOME 3 is completely supported in Gentoo: I'm
running GNOME 3.2, and everything works without a hitch. But, if you
are running stable, and you are not used to fiddle in /etc/portage to
unmask or keyword packages, I would recommend to wait for it to be
stabilized. I don't think it will take that much longer.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Tamer Higazi]

Hi Alan!
I thought more or less that I have to unmask packages, or making any
configurations to unlock the update to gnome3.

If I run now:

tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pav gnome

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
tamer@office ~ $


I get one package to reinstall.


If I run "layman -a gnome" and re-execute the command:


I got this message:

* If you enabled the GNOME overlay to get GNOME 3.2, please disable
 * it now, since GNOME 3.2 is already in portage and unmasked.



How do I install gnome 3.2, that is now in portage?!



Tamer




Am 11.03.2012 17:43, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100
> Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi people!
>> I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.
>>
>> First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team or
>> should I keep my fingers away of it?!
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml
>>
>> doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any
>> official documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags
>> etc....
>>
>>
>> for any advise I would thank you.
> 
> What sort of information are you looking for?
> 
> gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just
> 
> emerge -av gnome
> 
> and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
> everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Bruce Hill, Jr.]

On March 12, 2012 at 8:56 AM Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Alan!
> I thought more or less that I have to unmask packages, or making any
> configurations to unlock the update to gnome3.
>
> If I run now:
>
> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pav gnome
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
> policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> tamer@office ~ $
>
>
> I get one package to reinstall.
>
>
> If I run "layman -a gnome" and re-execute the command:
>
>
> I got this message:
>
> * If you enabled the GNOME overlay to get GNOME 3.2, please disable
>  * it now, since GNOME 3.2 is already in portage and unmasked.
>
>
>
> How do I install gnome 3.2, that is now in portage?!
>
>
>
> Tamer

<snip>

> > What sort of information are you looking for?
> >
> > gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just
> >
> > emerge -av gnome
> >
> > and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
> > everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?
> >
> >
>
>


It's still ~arch so add "gnome-base/gnome" (or some such) to
/etc/portage/package.accept_keywords

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Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Tamer Higazi]

and it still didn't bring me the desired result :(

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

!!! The following update has been skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies:

gnome-base/gnome:2.0

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- x11-wm/mutter-3.2.2::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
- x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1-r1::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)

(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-3.2.1" [ebuild])
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


tamer@office /etc/portage $



Am 12.03.2012 14:04, schrieb Bruce Hill, Jr.:
> 
> 
> 
> On March 12, 2012 at 8:56 AM Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alan!
>> I thought more or less that I have to unmask packages, or making any
>> configurations to unlock the update to gnome3.
>>
>> If I run now:
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pav gnome
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
>> policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
>>
>> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>> tamer@office ~ $
>>
>>
>> I get one package to reinstall.
>>
>>
>> If I run "layman -a gnome" and re-execute the command:
>>
>>
>> I got this message:
>>
>> * If you enabled the GNOME overlay to get GNOME 3.2, please disable
>>  * it now, since GNOME 3.2 is already in portage and unmasked.
>>
>>
>>
>> How do I install gnome 3.2, that is now in portage?!
>>
>>
>>
>> Tamer
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>> What sort of information are you looking for?
>>>
>>> gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just
>>>
>>> emerge -av gnome
>>>
>>> and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
>>> everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> It's still ~arch so add "gnome-base/gnome" (or some such) to
> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords
> 
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> 126 Fenco Drive            ( \
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> 

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Bruce Hill, Jr.]

On March 12, 2012 at 10:04 AM Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:

> and it still didn't bring me the desired result :(
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
> policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>
> !!! The following update has been skipped due to unsatisfied
dependencies:
>
> gnome-base/gnome:2.0
>
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1" have been
masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.2::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1-r1::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
>
> (dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-3.2.1" [ebuild])
> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>
>
> tamer@office /etc/portage $


Being new to ebuilds, forgive me if I'm wrong, but the requirement is
stated in the gnome-3.2.1.ebuild:

>=x11-wm/mutter-${PV}

as also stated in your output above.

You probably have flags for gnome:2.0 all over /etc/portage/package.* also.

Certainly someone more experienced will soon clarify.

Bruce
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Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[David Abbott]

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
<daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On March 12, 2012 at 10:04 AM Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> and it still didn't bring me the desired result :(
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
>> policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
>>
>> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>>
>> !!! The following update has been skipped due to unsatisfied
> dependencies:
>>
>> gnome-base/gnome:2.0
>>
>> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1" have been
> masked.
>> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
>> request:
>> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.2::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
>> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1-r1::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
>>
>> (dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-3.2.1" [ebuild])
>> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
>> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>>
>>
>> tamer@office /etc/portage $
>
>
> Being new to ebuilds, forgive me if I'm wrong, but the requirement is
> stated in the gnome-3.2.1.ebuild:
>
>>=x11-wm/mutter-${PV}
>
> as also stated in your output above.
>
> You probably have flags for gnome:2.0 all over /etc/portage/package.* also.
>
> Certainly someone more experienced will soon clarify.
>
> Bruce
> --
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>

Each one you get you will need to add to your package.keywords file.
This is what I would have to do;
echo "x11-wm/mutter" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords/gnome3

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:06:23 -0400, David Abbott wrote:

> Each one you get you will need to add to your package.keywords file.
> This is what I would have to do;
> echo "x11-wm/mutter" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords/gnome3

emerge autounmask and use it to write all the packages you need to your
keywords file. You'll have to read the man page for the syntax, I haven't
used it for quite a while as portage 2.2 has this built in.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Alan McKinnon]

On your system "emerge gnome" wants to install gnome-2

So either your tree is outdated (you must re-sync) or gnome-3 is still
masked. The second option is more likely and there are two
possibilities for that:

You run a stable system (gnome-3 is still unstable), or
you masked it for some reason.

Run this and examine what output you get:

emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1





On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:56:56 +0100
Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Alan!
> I thought more or less that I have to unmask packages, or making any
> configurations to unlock the update to gnome3.
> 
> If I run now:
> 
> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pav gnome
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
> policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> tamer@office ~ $
> 
> 
> I get one package to reinstall.
> 
> 
> If I run "layman -a gnome" and re-execute the command:
> 
> 
> I got this message:
> 
> * If you enabled the GNOME overlay to get GNOME 3.2, please disable
>  * it now, since GNOME 3.2 is already in portage and unmasked.
> 
> 
> 
> How do I install gnome 3.2, that is now in portage?!
> 
> 
> 
> Tamer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 11.03.2012 17:43, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100
> > Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi people!
> >> I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.
> >>
> >> First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team
> >> or should I keep my fingers away of it?!
> >>
> >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml
> >>
> >> doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any
> >> official documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags
> >> etc....
> >>
> >>
> >> for any advise I would thank you.
> > 
> > What sort of information are you looking for?
> > 
> > gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just
> > 
> > emerge -av gnome
> > 
> > and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
> > everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Tamer Higazi]

Hi Alan!
you were right. It is masked! I figured out that "autounmask" is not in
portage, because of that I believe that this might not be the only
package that is masked....


tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- x11-wm/mutter-3.2.2::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
- x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1-r1::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)

(dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-3.2.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "=gnome-3.2.1" [argument])
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.

tamer@office ~ $





Am 12.03.2012 21:35, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On your system "emerge gnome" wants to install gnome-2
> 
> So either your tree is outdated (you must re-sync) or gnome-3 is still
> masked. The second option is more likely and there are two
> possibilities for that:
> 
> You run a stable system (gnome-3 is still unstable), or
> you masked it for some reason.
> 
> Run this and examine what output you get:
> 
> emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:56:56 +0100
> Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alan!
>> I thought more or less that I have to unmask packages, or making any
>> configurations to unlock the update to gnome3.
>>
>> If I run now:
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pav gnome
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr ldap
>> policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
>>
>> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>> tamer@office ~ $
>>
>>
>> I get one package to reinstall.
>>
>>
>> If I run "layman -a gnome" and re-execute the command:
>>
>>
>> I got this message:
>>
>> * If you enabled the GNOME overlay to get GNOME 3.2, please disable
>>  * it now, since GNOME 3.2 is already in portage and unmasked.
>>
>>
>>
>> How do I install gnome 3.2, that is now in portage?!
>>
>>
>>
>> Tamer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 11.03.2012 17:43, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100
>>> Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi people!
>>>> I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.
>>>>
>>>> First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team
>>>> or should I keep my fingers away of it?!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml
>>>>
>>>> doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any
>>>> official documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags
>>>> etc....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> for any advise I would thank you.
>>>
>>> What sort of information are you looking for?
>>>
>>> gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just
>>>
>>> emerge -av gnome
>>>
>>> and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
>>> everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Alan McKinnon]

Let's deal with your biggest mistake first. You are running a stable
system (you have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64" in make,conf) but you want to
install gnome-3.

Now that is highly unlikely to work for a very long time yet as gnome-3
is considered nowhere near stable enough yet to be unmasked. Portage is
going to want to unmask vast chunks of your system to meet the
long deep list of dependencies for gnome-3 and this will cause you
sever amounts of pain.

Trust the folks on this list, over the years we have learned that a
stable system (with maybe a few unmasked packages) is OK, an unstable
system is also mostly OK (you just update lots of things often) but it
doesn't break fantastically every other day.

A system that is half stable, half unstable DOES break fantastically
every other day. And this is what you are trying to do.

You have many options, only two are actually realistic:

1. Stay stable, do not use gnome-3
2. Switch to unstable, do a full "emerge -e world", then emerge
gnome-3. It will go easy and probably JustWork out the box.




On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:33:56 +0100
Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Alan!
> you were right. It is masked! I figured out that "autounmask" is not
> in portage, because of that I believe that this might not be the only
> package that is masked....
> 
> 
> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1" have been
> masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to
> complete your request:
> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.2::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1-r1::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
> 
> (dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-3.2.1" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "=gnome-3.2.1" [argument])
> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
> 
> tamer@office ~ $
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 12.03.2012 21:35, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > On your system "emerge gnome" wants to install gnome-2
> > 
> > So either your tree is outdated (you must re-sync) or gnome-3 is
> > still masked. The second option is more likely and there are two
> > possibilities for that:
> > 
> > You run a stable system (gnome-3 is still unstable), or
> > you masked it for some reason.
> > 
> > Run this and examine what output you get:
> > 
> > emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:56:56 +0100
> > Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Alan!
> >> I thought more or less that I have to unmask packages, or making
> >> any configurations to unlock the update to gnome3.
> >>
> >> If I run now:
> >>
> >> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pav gnome
> >>
> >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >>
> >> Calculating dependencies... done!
> >> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr
> >> ldap policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
> >>
> >> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> >> tamer@office ~ $
> >>
> >>
> >> I get one package to reinstall.
> >>
> >>
> >> If I run "layman -a gnome" and re-execute the command:
> >>
> >>
> >> I got this message:
> >>
> >> * If you enabled the GNOME overlay to get GNOME 3.2, please disable
> >>  * it now, since GNOME 3.2 is already in portage and unmasked.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How do I install gnome 3.2, that is now in portage?!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tamer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 11.03.2012 17:43, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> >>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100
> >>> Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi people!
> >>>> I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.
> >>>>
> >>>> First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team
> >>>> or should I keep my fingers away of it?!
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml
> >>>>
> >>>> doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any
> >>>> official documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags
> >>>> etc....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> for any advise I would thank you.
> >>>
> >>> What sort of information are you looking for?
> >>>
> >>> gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just
> >>>
> >>> emerge -av gnome
> >>>
> >>> and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
> >>> everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



-- 
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alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] how updating to gnome3 ?!

[Tamer Higazi]

Thank you very much Alan!
I keep the finger away of it. And continue running Gnome2. Not important
for me updating the wm to gnome3.

It's a developer machine. :-)


Tamer


Am 13.03.2012 23:10, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> Let's deal with your biggest mistake first. You are running a stable
> system (you have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64" in make,conf) but you want to
> install gnome-3.
> 
> Now that is highly unlikely to work for a very long time yet as gnome-3
> is considered nowhere near stable enough yet to be unmasked. Portage is
> going to want to unmask vast chunks of your system to meet the
> long deep list of dependencies for gnome-3 and this will cause you
> sever amounts of pain.
> 
> Trust the folks on this list, over the years we have learned that a
> stable system (with maybe a few unmasked packages) is OK, an unstable
> system is also mostly OK (you just update lots of things often) but it
> doesn't break fantastically every other day.
> 
> A system that is half stable, half unstable DOES break fantastically
> every other day. And this is what you are trying to do.
> 
> You have many options, only two are actually realistic:
> 
> 1. Stay stable, do not use gnome-3
> 2. Switch to unstable, do a full "emerge -e world", then emerge
> gnome-3. It will go easy and probably JustWork out the box.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:33:56 +0100
> Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alan!
>> you were right. It is masked! I figured out that "autounmask" is not
>> in portage, because of that I believe that this might not be the only
>> package that is masked....
>>
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>
>> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1" have been
>> masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to
>> complete your request:
>> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.2::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
>> - x11-wm/mutter-3.2.1-r1::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword)
>>
>> (dependency required by "gnome-base/gnome-3.2.1" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "=gnome-3.2.1" [argument])
>> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
>> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 12.03.2012 21:35, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
>>> On your system "emerge gnome" wants to install gnome-2
>>>
>>> So either your tree is outdated (you must re-sync) or gnome-3 is
>>> still masked. The second option is more likely and there are two
>>> possibilities for that:
>>>
>>> You run a stable system (gnome-3 is still unstable), or
>>> you masked it for some reason.
>>>
>>> Run this and examine what output you get:
>>>
>>> emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:56:56 +0100
>>> Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alan!
>>>> I thought more or less that I have to unmask packages, or making
>>>> any configurations to unlock the update to gnome3.
>>>>
>>>> If I run now:
>>>>
>>>> tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pav gnome
>>>>
>>>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>>>
>>>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>>> [ebuild   R    ] gnome-base/gnome-2.32.1-r1  USE="cdr cups dvdr
>>>> ldap policykit -accessibility -mono" 0 kB
>>>>
>>>> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>>>> tamer@office ~ $
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I get one package to reinstall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I run "layman -a gnome" and re-execute the command:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I got this message:
>>>>
>>>> * If you enabled the GNOME overlay to get GNOME 3.2, please disable
>>>>  * it now, since GNOME 3.2 is already in portage and unmasked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do I install gnome 3.2, that is now in portage?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tamer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 11.03.2012 17:43, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:01:41 +0100
>>>>> Tamer Higazi <th982a@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi people!
>>>>>> I want to upgrade gnome 2.32 to gnome 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First question, is it now officially supported by the gentoo team
>>>>>> or should I keep my fingers away of it?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/gnome/howtos/gnome-3.2-upgrade.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doesn't tell me a lot how to accomplish this task. Is there any
>>>>>> official documentation telling me how to doit, unmasking, flags
>>>>>> etc....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for any advise I would thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> What sort of information are you looking for?
>>>>>
>>>>> gnome-3 is marked unstable, so if you run ~x86 or ~amd64 just
>>>>>
>>>>> emerge -av gnome
>>>>>
>>>>> and deal with any breakage. This is generally how gentoo works for
>>>>> everything. What were you expecting in terms of documentation ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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