From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F611381F4 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67EA221C057; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.virtyou.com (mx.virtyou.com [178.33.32.244]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E33921C058 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (static-87-79-78-135.netcologne.de [87.79.78.135]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx.virtyou.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9B4FDC04A for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:39:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <502E1169.4060508@wonkology.org> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:39:53 +0200 From: Alex Schuster User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try? References: <502DF7D0.8010200@wonkology.org> <20120817082509.GB3299@solfire> In-Reply-To: <20120817082509.GB3299@solfire> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: abed16fd-739d-4f17-9679-61899c25aab4 X-Archives-Hash: 30a0cb6a63eb10437b81cf98e0346aaa meino.cramer@gmx.de writes: > ...shot in the dark: > Remove as much as possible of the cards, addons, connections etc > from the PC ... make in as much "bare bone" as possible. Done already. > Check All coolers (the little ones also) for dust. Remove all > dust even if it is not completly covered with it. They are clean. > Dont forget the internals of the power supply. Detach all cables. > Remove the power supply. Go outside ;) and blow the dust inside away. I did not remove it yet... but if it's a temperature problem, it should not happen right after 30 seconds, when Grub already fails. The voltages reported in the BIOS are okay, but I don't know it this information is accurate and reliable. > Put the power supply back into the PC again an attach the cables. If I only could find a spare one... I have it, but I don't know where. > Remove all RAM, carefully clean the contacts, insert as less RAM as > possible. Did that, using only 4 of 16 GB, and I switched the modules. > Remove even the HD if it is possible to get into the BIOS > without any HD attached. I also did that, only the CD-ROM is attached. > Remove the BIOS battery, wait at least a day and insert it again. That's worth a try. My old PC had a jumper which I could short circuit to instantly drain it, not sure if this was normal. > Start the PC and go directly into the BIOS. Check the date/time. > If it shows the current date/time, the battery wasn't removed > long enough. Check the battery voltage. Reinsert the battery. > If your board has a BIOS reset: Reset the BIOS. > > Then: In the BIOS enter a page which "does something" > (reports continously temperatures for example). > > If this is possible, let the PC run for a > while that BIOS page and see, whether it > hangs again or not. Okay, I will do this. > If all went fine, add ONE component and try it again. > Add the HD at last to sort out hardware from software bugs... Nah, I cannot even boot from my USB stick any more. I don't have a boot partition on my hard drive, so it is not involved there. > May be one of the components and not the CPU or motherboard > causes the problem and you will be able to identify it by > this procedure... I hope it's the power supply, this would mean the least effort. I'd simply buy a new one, and I would not have to think about what board or which CPU I would like to get. > HTH! > > GOOD LUCK! Thanks! I can need it. Wonko