From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF4013800E for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AEA4E07E4; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF492E0767 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A41209A8 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 04:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 04:22:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=HWJrUiTQ/5njMINR2QdyagKy wDY=; b=VxoWm+/UGkDDUkXL6f6yEPuWwK60cQBZRWPwG4Yn6pJCL5NSfTljhxcY 8y5t3IL6B4Tu6EmlCITc+5nNZ+WWrYxPbC6V3N7f/a8jLsawbxFiUSDulIvSMvu0 qk0sRwjrUKqTcNOH81wWcC+nWjqEcL4lyufc7h5J0AzCXoNL1NE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=HWJr UiTQ/5njMINR2QdyagKywDY=; b=NpPLE14BwIEwf+yyBWrCSWIZ8M6pvbX6Snzs CcmCuLY6TgWh2IugqJtV9SC+YQltyU4ym+VD0L7/qN5rvKV8ZIUeP2fH1/aWe20V UZbUXyqCzYaGyaNe4TNeV3GusG5Xpv8NHxeIIl8tQi7dUjPkgcf2cvLEfgX3o67A HU5hVQ0= X-Sasl-enc: PNSRU8Da6oE2D5eNopUN5Gfw/icMQ9cgBI9b+Ybs8+hD 1343463749 Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [178.0.236.37]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7AE6B4837FA for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 04:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5013A13F.2000103@binarywings.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:22:23 +0200 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120701 Thunderbird/10.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] intel HD graphics 4000 and viewing DVDs References: <5012FC72.8070200@binarywings.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig99870098230EEF07B2014898" X-Archives-Salt: 0acbba37-7b39-4090-809f-34897287d4b9 X-Archives-Hash: d127012626a8809719611f44179b8e04 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig99870098230EEF07B2014898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 27.07.2012 22:57, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: >> Am 27.07.2012 22:22, schrieb Michael Mol: >>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Allan Gottlieb wr= ote: >>>> I am getting a new laptop. (likely dell 6430). >>>> The two graphics options are intel HD 4000 and nvidia NVS 5200M. >>>> Dell is as expected suggesting the 5200M. >>>> >>>> I do not need 3D or fast response. Dell hinted that DVDs might not = play >>>> with the intel HD 4000. This seems weird to me as the 4000 is suppo= sed >>>> to be a big improvement over the 3000 and I can't believe dell or ot= hers >>>> would have sold laptops that can't play dvds >>>> >>>> Any comments or experiences? >>> >>> My Duron 750MHz was able to decode DVDs in realtime. After that, all >>> you're doing is blitting (or using xv) the frames to the screen. I >>> would be absolutely shocked if the Intel HD 4000 GPU couldn't handle >>> that basic of a 2D acceleration function. >>> >>> Now, DVDs use MPEG2. Blu-Ray uses h.264, which is a much harder beast= >>> to decode in realtime. It's possible the HD 4000 GPU can't handle >>> hardware decode of h.264, but I don't know. I've never looked into it= =2E >>> (Software decode of 1080p h.264 on my Phenom 9650 worked somewhat, bu= t >>> highly active scenes would cause frame drops.) >>> >> >> I've experienced issues playing DVDs on fullscreen with the OSS radeon= >> driver. Therefore I'm cautious of assumptions that something works >> simply because the input is easy to decode. Upscaling to large display= s >> with high resolutions can be an issue. >> >> I'm not saying the Intel driver cannot handle it. I'm just saying you >> should try it or look for reports. >=20 > How high is 'high' resolution? I was upscaling to 1600x1200 using an a > Radeon 9600; that card would now be almost ten years old. A bit later, > I did the same on a 2.4GHz Pentium 4 using an i845-based Intel > graphics card. Here's the line from lspci, as run in May of 2007: >=20 > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation > 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) >=20 > Hardware scaling a 2D image is one of the most trivial > hardware-accelerated options GPUs perform. If someone had difficulties > upscaling a 480p (roughly what DVDs are) to 1080p at 24 or 33fps, I > would be very highly suspicious of a software misconfiguration. That > kind of scaling should even be comfortably doable in software on any > modern x86-derived processor. (With the plausible exclusion of the > Atom CPU) >=20 1920x1080, on-board Radeon HD 4250. I haven't diagnosed it further (except of playing around with mplayer2 options) as it was easier to use the closed source driver. 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