From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E955413800E for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02EC821C004; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49458E052E for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066D720B20 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:39:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=M9/cYYUNl+RTDZ3paMKk3nD3 vro=; b=NuMrZo2DCSztwdCFEZjyEo3fltuLfMlGdShG665/Zo9w5nQhKy3pWnQK MH+5tYZXBKHDoS9N8y1vJi7DfuJ/928kx9XGlHuTWoLwhqeE65uLkWbKGovimxTK MjYwa/32gDPdkpZN7YAbR6uQ54nhgsw9PdYMYV1fWD7jzmL1+KU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=M9/c YYUNl+RTDZ3paMKk3nD3vro=; b=FEcuJlGM3DcCzqmvkHVZI1lYLLDZEoT4EfIo ljMEbKzO3NSr8ibEzS/dCdHe510ZgTbMp57665n17TTQIcAUHoHgjLypYhszw9or jqCzAFptpYjEylEX8xI3lla1ZwEE6EzNNp8T6yJrBlstcOEmgXsarz/utky6zgzP LbdIEHY= X-Sasl-enc: +QQWBy7gUARhvGCVqHAC1CBtZQlMGyIMLbKp/D8PnJG2 1343421562 Received: from [192.168.2.5] (unknown [178.8.239.25]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 37F564824CE for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5012FC72.8070200@binarywings.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:39:14 +0200 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120701 Thunderbird/10.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] intel HD graphics 4000 and viewing DVDs References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6984766BACFB4368A3923C0B" X-Archives-Salt: d17ff61e-0151-4838-8cff-f1147ad9ea1e X-Archives-Hash: 5d775ab659689f0d7565c9c72c7fef37 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6984766BACFB4368A3923C0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 27.07.2012 22:22, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrot= e: >> I am getting a new laptop. (likely dell 6430). >> The two graphics options are intel HD 4000 and nvidia NVS 5200M. >> Dell is as expected suggesting the 5200M. >> >> I do not need 3D or fast response. Dell hinted that DVDs might not pl= ay >> with the intel HD 4000. This seems weird to me as the 4000 is suppose= d >> to be a big improvement over the 3000 and I can't believe dell or othe= rs >> would have sold laptops that can't play dvds >> >> Any comments or experiences? >=20 > My Duron 750MHz was able to decode DVDs in realtime. After that, all > you're doing is blitting (or using xv) the frames to the screen. I > would be absolutely shocked if the Intel HD 4000 GPU couldn't handle > that basic of a 2D acceleration function. >=20 > Now, DVDs use MPEG2. Blu-Ray uses h.264, which is a much harder beast > to decode in realtime. It's possible the HD 4000 GPU can't handle > hardware decode of h.264, but I don't know. I've never looked into it. > (Software decode of 1080p h.264 on my Phenom 9650 worked somewhat, but > highly active scenes would cause frame drops.) >=20 I've experienced issues playing DVDs on fullscreen with the OSS radeon driver. Therefore I'm cautious of assumptions that something works simply because the input is easy to decode. Upscaling to large displays with high resolutions can be an issue. I'm not saying the Intel driver cannot handle it. I'm just saying you should try it or look for reports. Regards, Florian Philipp --------------enig6984766BACFB4368A3923C0B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAS/HcACgkQqs4uOUlOuU80bACdGiSljS3w8SJy01aoJZ0cfmm9 nQwAnAj7XCI+nv1NmjtLqUsuJOVPNHfE =NdlR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6984766BACFB4368A3923C0B--