From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SsPG5-0000oy-Q2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:17:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37D0EE0511; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gg0-f181.google.com (mail-gg0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501B0E045E for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnv5 with SMTP id v5so4941294ggn.40 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:15:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CX1PapcPCivsUmp1KgQ8m6+9qEmYhY7Y4lxz6aaY+YE=; b=g0rRVg//MHfK4SfMfg/gavkYiPdDFu7sgun52wNbiX0wu7v221d4s+lbD+hlooHbUr Qnl1rYxRqFdbV0wqbEcwj1h7cCrkLao9R/zj61EE220LfFvIxVRLI607++P+phI/8LBl ycZd4ubOS7Xgh+uVKN8yA+CQvAucux0TwzXxuv+NGUe3f8ThIlFS7fJ+MLPDZlhkrLDe QRn0hQzy5XtMHFnbiZWGcu7H5YYDkBz0Bd2nlrNL6VTcpPRCXPLg2bYv4kqQgMNhgU+/ o5T5BtDkBGZbsTj2FO1uKKmetUf4+wfsAqmUM3Sv6Qp2zyurj8trpBoLSfZp5JjtZZtz DScg== Received: by 10.236.144.165 with SMTP id n25mr7410232yhj.61.1342836938690; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-149-202.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.149.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r25sm12587792yhi.13.2012.07.20.19.15.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <500A10C8.5010907@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:15:36 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120717 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : (1) which CPU ? References: <20120720072442.GD2871@ca.inter.net> <20120720144011.17d96b2fc9d0d0786e0d2e8b@ukr.net> <500949AF.7080704@gmail.com> <50094C7A.2080203@binarywings.net> <5009990B.80106@gmail.com> <20120721012719.GA2879@ca.inter.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d7089948-3b82-4132-b104-782864f7ee97 X-Archives-Hash: cda6204fad6e473a09219ab3b4abf0fb Alecks Gates wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >> 120720 Dale wrote to me as OP: >>> If you need help with this, i'd be glad to help you pick parts >>> for your build. The biggest thing is to make sure things work together. >> Thanks for the offer & the other advice from everyone so far. >> I built machines successfully in 2000 2003 2007 >> & am still using the last 2 , tho' the 2007 mobo failed (ASUS) >> & its replacement is showing minor bugs (glad I got in-store warranty). >> Therefore, I'm not looking for basic advice how to put a box together. >> >> I'm also willing to pay for a fast upto-date CPU, >> but not of course whatever came out just last week, >> which will soon drop in price & will still need some bugs sorting out. >> I don't have to choose between a good CPU & a good SSD >> & expect to get a competitive price from Canada Computers, as before. >> >> Any further thoughts re Intel vs AMD wb very welcome. >> >> -- >> ========================,,============================================ >> SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb >> ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto >> TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca >> >> > You'd definitely get more bang for your buck out of AMD, especially > with Gentoo. It might even be worth waiting for AMD's piledriver-core > CPUs depending on how much of an improvement they actually give, > though I'm not sure when those are supposed to be out. And paying for > a top-of-the-line AMD CPU is still much cheaper than Intel. > > This is a very broad generalization of course, but a lot of it comes > down to multi-threaded (lean towards AMD) vs single-threaded (lean > towards Intel). Honestly I don't think you'd notice the difference > anyway on a general desktop. I'd pick AMD, and very likely one of > their APUs if you don't need intense graphics, as they seem to be able > to handle most things well and even some light gaming. > > I did some checking when I built my rig. If I recall correctly, just a comparable Intel CPU would have cost as much as my AMD CPU *and* the mobo. After you put down some bucks for the CPU, you still have to buy a mobo which seem pricey to me as well. Between those two parts, you can spend a lot of money for Intel based stuff. Seriously, for desktop use and budget, go with AMD. Spend the money you save on your SSD or a really nice video card. After all, the video card is what you really see anyway. I'm not saying Intel is bad but AMD is a great CPU and much cheaper. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!