From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr8RD-00043x-C3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:07:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20E9BE0682; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com (mail-pb0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7424FE050C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbrr13 with SMTP id rr13so957443pbb.40 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:04:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=4HJaeSTK3oZMvBtUC8sHqvXOktLXvz0hR7KAhJbw4RY=; b=oIkj+XiHUkX2gF+3OL55E9RaHBFrfoq63jb2SsAkPed1nPRdAQmEXjyxE6IPkn9hp9 gz9sB2TRfMJT6cQTErZNuZYnIIcNd/RcMV1+ehm1V1Kb2njqdN+SZEDiussZYcxd6RhX ADrAQyZirDI022eydk3oUECl5lAKY1WMU8vxU7KJ/7XIM6ccvwHXOnTuMpo2mkCq5hFT vP4eJ45UFKZ9O/zcZfykOzr/nADUE0n8TJjZiapb/AKrf/LTNpTFxaJ48KBhFcgkxsFq ustdIQbfaEIdEP5MMZuuWusBeglw4IacPakPNQQDw+nPU8hiIISdOljGDIp1byFo7mkw +caQ== Received: by 10.68.201.9 with SMTP id jw9mr7477199pbc.28.1342533884608; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([121.246.205.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ip5sm14136473pbc.3.2012.07.17.07.04.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Nilesh Govindrajan Message-ID: <500570F0.9000103@nileshgr.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:34:32 +0530 From: Nilesh Govindrajan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/13.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlNXMGNRTzpn7YIGFJbWzP+ZQZpoH0SzBJYrfrxfpdaLXJgPmBJJi3MxGx6Ka6QUkBNXoAb X-Archives-Salt: 272b2b87-baad-40ee-89f6-7d6a3f75df39 X-Archives-Hash: 07db53a3355dd1682e5bf010f1670ad8 On 07/17/2012 07:19 PM, Leiking wrote: > 64bit means bugs.?? But I use 64. > > 2012/7/17 Pandu Poluan : >> >> On Jul 17, 2012 10:08 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >>> >> --- >8 >> >> >>> >>> IMO, it's worth the 'overhead' to run 64-bit, if only for the greater >>> number of GPRs and other architectural improvements. There's honestly >>> a lot of good stuff in x86-64 beyond the larger address space. The >>> increased address space also helps long-lived programs avoid address >>> space fragmentation. >>> >>> -- >>> :wq >>> >> >> +1 on architectural improvements. >> >> From a purely data-wise view: with 64 bits, Long Integers will be handled >> much faster than having to manhandle 2 32-bit chunks of half-integers. >> >> Rgds, > Bugs. This is why I wanted to get an answer to this question specifically. I've been using Gentoo since one year and with amd64 only. But recently (if you noticed), I'd posted a thread about lot of segfaults. As much as I was compelled to think that something is really wrong with my hardware, a similar segfault bug occurred on an _amd64_ Gentoo VM with Linode I manage, that too with a program that had been working ever since I installed it, and there were no updates as such. But from the inputs I received, I think it would be obviously better to stay with 64bit. Is it only me or the ~amd64 branch has become really unstable in the few days? (Yeah I know ~amd64 can be unstable to any extent it wants to, but just a qualitative question) -- Nilesh Govindrajan http://nileshgr.com