From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 523C4158232 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2024 16:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C0FCE0D1B; Sun, 8 Dec 2024 16:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 097BAE0CEA for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2024 16:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4dee8967-0f9b-4370-91e9-85cceb82c82d@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 11:30:07 -0500 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package "www-client/firefox" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <67532ef4.df0a0220.13e893.fe55@mx.google.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Eli Schwartz Autocrypt: addr=eschwartz@gentoo.org; keydata= xjMEZmeRNBYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAYNZ7pUDWhx1i2f3p6L2ZLu4FcY18UoeGC04Gq/khqwfN I0VsaSBTY2h3YXJ0eiA8ZXNjaHdhcnR6QGdlbnRvby5vcmc+wpYEExYKAD4WIQTvUdMIsc4j CIi+DYTqQj6ToWND8QUCZoRL+gIbAwUJBKKGAAULCQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAgMBAAIeBQIXgAAK CRDqQj6ToWND8aB5AP9r4kB691nNtNwKkdRiOdl7/k6WYzokvHvDamXxRJ0I+gEAjZqR5V8y mfR3fy2Z+r2Joeqdt3CIv5IwPs64spBvigLOOARmZ5E0EgorBgEEAZdVAQUBAQdATT46Z06b 1X9xjXFCYFxmq/Tj3tSEKZInDWTpoHQp4l8DAQgHwn4EGBYKACYWIQTvUdMIsc4jCIi+DYTq Qj6ToWND8QUCZmeRNAIbDAUJBKKGAAAKCRDqQj6ToWND8a2RAP40KPfbfoiZAJW5boFmFJ3G TUBDJRh9CWHyaPqq2PN+0wD/R07oLzfnJUN209mzi9TuTuHjeZybysyqXSw4MAxkMAY= In-Reply-To: <67532ef4.df0a0220.13e893.fe55@mx.google.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------XB6hlxfXU1f5E0s9YPpMKi25" X-Archives-Salt: 58d89154-781b-4bdf-b4f6-8bb3ec369806 X-Archives-Hash: 630b470a7277093337a9c6768b0e25b4 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------XB6hlxfXU1f5E0s9YPpMKi25 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------o8FPcviwLnXxfcnVIDQinsS0"; protected-headers="v1" From: Eli Schwartz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <4dee8967-0f9b-4370-91e9-85cceb82c82d@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package "www-client/firefox" References: <67532ef4.df0a0220.13e893.fe55@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <67532ef4.df0a0220.13e893.fe55@mx.google.com> --------------o8FPcviwLnXxfcnVIDQinsS0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/6/24 12:05 PM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, >=20 > On 04 Dec 2024 15:35:10 +0100 I myself asked: >> ... >> Gentoo provides two flavours of Firefox, one in slot "esr" (Extend= ed >> Support Release) and one in slot "rapid" (new release every 16 weeks= ). >> ... >> So which slot shou= ld >> I choose? Any opinions out there? >=20 > Thank you for the replies. >=20 > Of the three people responding one reply was in favour of "esr" and tw= o > were in favour of "rapid" (pessimists would comment "only one more..."= , > while optimists would comment "twice as much!" :-) >=20 > Since in the past Firefox required some 100 minutes to build on my lap= - > top, I checked the binhost and found version 128.5.0:esr. Nothing fro= m > slot "rapid" there. And in the normal Gentoo tree there are also th= e > two ebuilds "www-client/firefox-bin-128.5.1:esr" and "www-client/fire= - > fox-bin-133.0:rapid". Not sure why there are still these "*-bin" pack= - > ages and why there are no "*:rapid" versions on the binhost at all. The "*-bin" packages are binaries that Mozilla compiled. Packages that install prebuilt binaries can be stabilized much faster than packages that compile from source as there is much less that can go wrong. Due to rapid changing much more frequently I suspect there's less interest in having it stabilized as it would mostly tend to make users recompile the package much more frequently, and it takes quite a long time... this is funnily enough why I'd love to have rapid in the binhost, but also why it *cannot* be in the binhost: because the binhost uses stable keywords. It's a problem I'd like to see solved. I have thoughts about it but they are not complete. --=20 Eli Schwartz --------------o8FPcviwLnXxfcnVIDQinsS0-- --------------XB6hlxfXU1f5E0s9YPpMKi25 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wnsEABYIACMWIQTnFNnmK0TPZHnXm3qEp9ErcA0vVwUCZ1XJjwUDAAAAAAAKCRCEp9ErcA0vV8E4 AQDY8qhacNiambA/jVq3TpXsN4xsDWChznrVqD19ryyv+AD+J7dkdmMhWBCNCB0OiQIXL0rIE9MH JDQ6dUq5NmmxtgY= =2yCR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------XB6hlxfXU1f5E0s9YPpMKi25--