From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-119114-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1PgMUz-0008A8-QC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:18:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97705E0CBC; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4204CE0CBC for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so2503602fxm.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:16:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:subject:date :x-kmail-transport:x-kmail-fcc:x-kmail-drafts:x-kmail-templates :x-kmail-link-message:x-kmail-link-type:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=/C8uhmSJ/LfRVJ8zH4g6M4nYHCKDbumcJNvwVzxHQOg=; b=CrNqG8RizCQH35xHpdbfrTeEI9AgMYapjH5SGcZPWUcTKfiSyYC3KQnyJxkm2vvwCV /ZbGNqtzqPV5O/9oeUrdXc+1CHSEJ1gEaUI2SiJF6sA8LfOqKEXNvETuKVAPPHAfrO3w G2ixM8cNFrM782uegH8Y14BQfCrS3ghsXvkFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:x-kmail-transport:x-kmail-fcc :x-kmail-drafts:x-kmail-templates:x-kmail-link-message :x-kmail-link-type:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; b=tb4/7rJCNAyM0mfxufzIC+DBguA4OUAMRgxUDXMNJid85Oa+zyC5ct+3voQk5SbRIq 6ZNyonsqy2q1mflc7I3F2FjeKEyUb4YQ7syOOWgaxQr+CTMfetIu/77Ef12Dr1lHuUSb pgtRp75CigR0mM4JOcB1RnZ5GXU9FpktTOgbA= Received: by 10.223.74.142 with SMTP id u14mr1027492faj.97.1295637403449; Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (p4FC74CA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.199.76.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm3745137fav.17.2011.01.21.11.16.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:16:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4d39db9a.9505df0a.50d3.ffffbf47@mx.google.com> From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] AHCI/IDE-question Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:16:35 +0100 X-KMail-Transport: googlemail X-KMail-Fcc: 32 X-KMail-Drafts: 14 X-KMail-Templates: 35 X-KMail-Link-Message: 125267 X-KMail-Link-Type: reply User-Agent: KMail/4.6 beta3 (Linux/2.6.36.3r4; KDE/4.5.95; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=2H0jjdO7QasjPEGToMygZGxaHzz-FCLpgpjwO@mail.gmail.com> References: <20110121184507.GC5787@solfire> <AANLkTi=2H0jjdO7QasjPEGToMygZGxaHzz-FCLpgpjwO@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e6de5630ad02394b523d657075533845 On Friday 21 January 2011 11:08:39 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:45 AM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I got a little confused about the sense or nonsense of AHCI vs. IDE. > > > > I run a ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, which BIOS has a menu entry to > > configure the SATA ports either for IDE or AHCI or RAID. Forget RAID > > for a momen -- I dont use it (nothing against RAID ! ;) > > > > My box uses a linux 2.6.37 vanilla kernel. > > > > The kernel config has been set to > > > > CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y > > # CONFIG_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM is not set > > > > In the dmesg output I found this: > > > > pci 0000:00:11.0: set SATA to AHCI mode > > ahci 0000:00:11.0: AHCI 0001.0200 32 slots 4 ports 3 Gbps 0xf impl > > SATA mode ahci 0000:07:00.0: AHCI 0001.0000 32 slots 2 ports 3 Gbps 0x3 > > impl SATA mode > > > > despite the fact that AHCI is disabled in the BIOS settings (using > > IDE). > > > > I did an experiment an disabled AHCI in the kernel (to make the kernel > > settings consistent with the BIOS.) > > > > Result: The kernel did not find the root partition. > > > > In the meanwhile I do not understand all this never more. > > > > Why does the kernel boots only, if the BIOS says "IDE!" and linux > > insists on "AHCI!"...and waht ist the result? > > > > Best regards, > > mcc > > Hi meino, > It's disappointing that Volker insists on sending these pissy > little responses which don't advance the conversation. Sorry for that. > > Not sure I can lend any weight to the argument but it's my belief > that your installation of Gentoo Linux isn't using BIOS to access the > disk at all. Once the system boots and loads the kernel, then the > kernel loads drivers (or uses what you built into the kernel) and > takes over control of the hardware using the AHCI drivers. If the > kernel doesn't use BIOS disk calls (INT13?) then it doesn't care what > the BIOS thinks because the BIOS is not longer involved. It just talks > directly to the hardware. > > I'm happy to be corrected (by Volker I'm sure) but that's my guess > as to what you're seeing. you are confusing bios calls and bios programming chips as.... also - is there any good reason to use IDE mode? Any? At all?