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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:14:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d34950a.0297df0a.5e61.ffffceff@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110117183408.GG5748@solfire>

On Monday 17 January 2011 19:34:08 meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> BRM <bm_witness@yahoo.com> [11-01-17 19:16]:
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > 
> > > I have two questions:
> > >  1) Do I have to enable microcode  updates in the BIOS of my
> > >  Crosshair
> > >  
> > >     IV Formula to activate  microcodes push in the CPU by the
> > >     module
> > >     "microcode" ? (AMD  Phenom X6 1090T)
> > 
> > Not sure about BIOS, but the Linux Kernel you are running will certainly
> > need support enabled too.
> > 
> > >  2) Does anyone know, what these microcodes do? They are  fixes
> > >  for...
> > >  
> > >     ...what?
> > 
> > The Intel and AMD processors are more abstract than physical now. With
> > i486 and earlier the processors were typically hard wired; hardware
> > "bug" fixes could not be pushed out.

even the 68000 used microcode...

> > Intel's Pentium (and I don't know which AMD) started using micro-code to
> > program the processor. This enabled them to push out "hardware" bug
> > fixes for the processors

sure that microcode was not introduced to x86 a lot earlier?

> > 
> > So what happens is the x86 instruction (e.g. mov ax, bx) gets translated
> > to micro-code first, then it gets processed, and the result translated
> > back to the expected instruction result - essentially, emulating the
> > x86 instruction set in the processor. That's the simple version.
> > 
> > So now when they discover a bug in the hardware they can push out a
> > micro-code update to either fix the "hardware"  (microcode) bug or work
> > around a hardware (physical hardware) bug.
> > 
> > Ben
> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> thanks for your explanation...
> I meant: What is fixed the uc-patches? Does "mov" only except "17" as
> argument...or...
> I searched AMD for a changelog or something like but I ound nothing...

they never publish changelogs for microcode.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-17 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 17:21 [gentoo-user] Microcode update AMD meino.cramer
2011-01-17 18:10 ` BRM
2011-01-17 18:34   ` meino.cramer
2011-01-17 19:14     ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2011-01-17 18:48   ` Mark Knecht
2011-01-17 19:12     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-20  0:53       ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-01-20  1:08         ` walt
2011-01-17 19:08 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-17 19:19   ` meino.cramer
2011-01-17 19:46     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-17 19:57       ` meino.cramer
2011-01-17 20:12         ` Mark Knecht
2011-01-17 20:52           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-18  4:29       ` William Kenworthy
2011-01-18 15:38         ` Paul Hartman
2011-01-18 16:16           ` Mark Knecht
2011-01-18 17:34             ` Mark Knecht
2011-01-18 17:48               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-02-05 14:28                 ` Enrico Weigelt
2011-02-05 15:26                   ` meino.cramer
2011-02-05 17:07                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-02-06 11:36                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-18 17:55               ` Paul Hartman
2011-01-18 18:21                 ` Mark Knecht
2011-01-18 20:42                   ` Paul Hartman
2011-01-18 20:56                     ` Mick
2011-01-18 21:13                       ` Paul Hartman
2011-01-18 23:08                         ` Mick
2011-01-18 23:56                       ` Mark Knecht
2011-01-17 20:13     ` Jason Weisberger
2011-01-17 20:49       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-17 21:59         ` Jason Weisberger
2011-01-17 23:27           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-18 15:39           ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno J. Silva
2011-02-05 13:34   ` [gentoo-user] " Enrico Weigelt
2011-02-05 16:15     ` Florian Philipp
2011-01-18 16:27 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-01-19 17:10 ` Volker Armin Hemmann

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