[gentoo-user] building without X

[gentoo-user] building without X

[Eric S. Johansson]

building a gentoo server.  only need X client lib/support but for some 
reason, the X server is in the dependency list for emacs and xorg is 
*failing to build*.  if I change make.conf to have -X11 the server side 
doesn't build but then again neither does any client side support.  very 
annoying.  googling for these errors shows nothing.  doubly annoying.

../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x124c): 
undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x1254): 
undefined reference to `__guard'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

make.conf

CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
USE="aim emacs fastcgi imap maildir mmx mozilla pcmcia python usb gdbm 
pam png berkdb apache2 perl readline gif qt gtk gtk2 ldap mcal ncurses 
sse ssl -X wxwindows zlib"

your assistance is greatly appreciated.

---eric


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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte]

Hi !

First questions ....

What do you want exactly ? Do you need X support or not ? If you do
not, well remove those use flags qt gtk gtk2 since they need an X
server anyway to function. Since you are building a server, may I
suggest putting -* at the front of your use flags to make sure you
don't have some obscure use flags. Instead of putting your settings
from make.conf try putting `emerge info`. It really gives what are the
currently active settings of portage so to speak.

Might want to read this too :
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/109647

Anyway, I really don't understand your problem. Let's start again,
post clearly what your problem is or what you really want (For
example, I don't want any X support but it tries to emerge it and it
even fails preventing me from continuing my updates. Here's my setup
(emerge info) and here's what portage is trying to acheive (emerge
-Udpvt world). Post the results of `emerge info` and `emerge -uDpvt`
if you were trying to update your server.

Cheers !

Jean-Francois

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:14:43 -0500, Eric S. Johansson <esj@harvee.org> wrote:
> building a gentoo server.  only need X client lib/support but for some
> reason, the X server is in the dependency list for emacs and xorg is
> *failing to build*.  if I change make.conf to have -X11 the server side
> doesn't build but then again neither does any client side support.  very
> annoying.  googling for these errors shows nothing.  doubly annoying.
> 
> ../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x124c):
> undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
> ../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x1254):
> undefined reference to `__guard'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> make.conf
> 
> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> MAKEOPTS="-j3"
> PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
> USE="aim emacs fastcgi imap maildir mmx mozilla pcmcia python usb gdbm
> pam png berkdb apache2 perl readline gif qt gtk gtk2 ldap mcal ncurses
> sse ssl -X wxwindows zlib"
> 
> your assistance is greatly appreciated.
> 
> ---eric
> 
> --
> "Part of the problem with the Wal-Mart business model is that it
> requires more poverty in order to grow."
> 
> http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2004/11/22/wal_mart/print.html
> 
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> 
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Eric S. Johansson]

Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> First questions ....
> 
> What do you want exactly ? Do you need X support or not ? 

apologies for not being clearer.  What I want is only X11 client side 
support so I can build applications that use X11.  Since it is a server 
and I will never run X11 server side, I don't want to spend the time or 
energy building the X11 server.  case in point is Emacs.  I don't want 
to be limited to what ever I can display via putty but wish to display 
Emacs sessions on my desktop X11 server.

If it is impossible to split X11 into client and server packages, then I 
would need some help figuring out why it is dying on two security 
related functions.  based on your advice, I found some information and 
I'm rebuilding a bunch of packages in the hopes that the unexplained 
dependency will be fixed

> from make.conf try putting `emerge info`. It really gives what are the
> currently active settings of portage so to speak.

thank you for the advice.  see below.

> Might want to read this too :
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/109647

at initial glance, doesn't seem to apply.  It's good information but I'm 
not trying to eliminate X totally, only the server side.  or failing 
that, make the server build and ignore it.

>Post the results of `emerge info` and `emerge -uDpvt`
> if you were trying to update your server.

xeno root # emerge info
Portage 2.0.51-r3 (default-linux/x86/2004.3, gcc-3.3.4, 
glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r0,glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1, 2.6.9 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.9 i686 Pentium III (Katmai)
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r5
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-r3
Headers:  sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21-r1
Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.4.3-r4,sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r7
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER=""
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config 
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo 
http://gentoo.eliteitminds.com 
http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo 
http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.ccccom.com"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X aim apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups emacs 
encode f77 fastcgi foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 imap 
imlib jpeg kde ldap libg++ libwww mad maildir mcal mikmod mmx motif 
mozilla mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl oss pam pcmcia pdflib perl png 
python qt quicktime readline sdl spell sse ssl svga tcpd truetype usb 
wxwindows x86 xml2 xmms xv zlib"


xeno root # emerge -uDpvt world

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[nomerge      ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r3  +X* -Xaw3d -debug +gnome 
-leim -lesstif +motif +nls
[ebuild  N    ]  media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b  +X +gif 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]  x11-libs/openmotif-2.1.30-r5  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]  gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.8.0  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]   app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14  +nls 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.9-r1  +crypt +python 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.1.94  +nls 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r5  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.12  -tetex 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.65.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.77-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     dev-perl/SGMLSpm-1.03-r5  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      app-arch/unzip-5.50-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r4  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      app-text/opensp-1.5-r1  +nls 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]   x11-libs/startup-notification-0.7  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.0  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]  x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.2.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]   media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r11  -debug +nls 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    media-libs/giflib-4.1.0-r3  +X +gif 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    media-libs/tiff-3.7.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.8.0  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]   gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.8.0  -debug -doc +jpeg 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.0  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]    gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libgnome-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.8.1-r2  -debug -doc -gnutls 
-hal -howl -ipv6 -samba +ssl 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       app-admin/fam-2.7.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]        net-nds/portmap-5b-r9  -debug (-selinux) +tcpd 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.1  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      media-sound/esound-0.2.34  -alsa -ipv6 +tcpd 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.16  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libbonobo-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/gconf-2.8.0.1  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      gnome-base/orbit-2.12.0  -debug -doc +ssl 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.4  -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       dev-util/indent-2.2.9-r1  +nls 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libglade-2.4.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.9-r1  -debug -doc +jpeg -tiff 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.14  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]        dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.15-r1  -debug -ipv6 +python 
+readline 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]        dev-util/intltool-0.31.2  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]         dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.34  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]       x11-libs/pango-1.6.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-terms/xterm-196  -Xaw3d -debug +truetype -unicode 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]  sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]   app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  0 kB
[nomerge      ]    sys-apps/which-2.16
[ebuild  N    ]       x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r3  -3dfx -3dnow 
+bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -hardened 
-insecure-drivers -ipv6 +mmx +nls +pam -sdk +sse -static -xprint 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]      dev-libs/atk-1.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ]       dev-libs/glib-2.4.7  -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ]        dev-util/pkgconfig-0.15.0  0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte]

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:05:42 -0500, Eric S. Johansson <esj@harvee.org> wrote:
> Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote:
> > Hi !
> >
> > First questions ....
> >
> > What do you want exactly ? Do you need X support or not ?
> 
> apologies for not being clearer.  What I want is only X11 client side
> support so I can build applications that use X11.  Since it is a server
> and I will never run X11 server side, I don't want to spend the time or
> energy building the X11 server.  case in point is Emacs.  I don't want
> to be limited to what ever I can display via putty but wish to display
> Emacs sessions on my desktop X11 server.
> 

No problem. AFAIK, you can't really seperate the client libs from the
server ... well in portage that is. Also, you can use screen, emacs
and ssh to do the same thing. I'm not an emacs user but I fail to
grasp why do you want to bloat a server with X11 traffic. Does xemacs
have some features that emacs doesn't have ? (As you can see i'm a vi
user ... personnaly I don't see a difference between gvim and vim
except it uses X11). With screen you can open up many sessions, detach
it, close your connection, let it run and check it out later when log
back in. It's very useful for server administration. Maybe, I again
really don't see what you want ... it's monday for everybody -_-.

> If it is impossible to split X11 into client and server packages, then I
> would need some help figuring out why it is dying on two security
> related functions.  based on your advice, I found some information and
> I'm rebuilding a bunch of packages in the hopes that the unexplained
> dependency will be fixed
> 
For that I don't really know but Rumen has a good point. I haven't had
the time to fiddle with hardened specific optimisations.

> > from make.conf try putting `emerge info`. It really gives what are the
> > currently active settings of portage so to speak.
> 
> thank you for the advice.  see below.
> 
> > Might want to read this too :
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/109647
> 
> at initial glance, doesn't seem to apply.  It's good information but I'm
> not trying to eliminate X totally, only the server side.  or failing
> that, make the server build and ignore it.
> 
> >Post the results of `emerge info` and `emerge -uDpvt`
> > if you were trying to update your server.
> 
> xeno root # emerge info
> Portage 2.0.51-r3 (default-linux/x86/2004.3, gcc-3.3.4,
> glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r0,glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1, 2.6.9 i686)
> =================================================================
> System uname: 2.6.9 i686 Pentium III (Katmai)
> Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
> Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r5
> Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
> Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-r3
> Headers:  sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21-r1
> Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.4.3-r4,sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r7
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
> AUTOCLEAN="yes"
> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> COMPILER=""
> CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config
> /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
> CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
> CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
> FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms"
> GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo
> http://gentoo.eliteitminds.com
> http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo
> http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.ccccom.com"
> MAKEOPTS="-j3"
> PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
> PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
> PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
> PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
> SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
> USE="X aim apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups emacs
> encode f77 fastcgi foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 imap
> imlib jpeg kde ldap libg++ libwww mad maildir mcal mikmod mmx motif
> mozilla mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl oss pam pcmcia pdflib perl png
> python qt quicktime readline sdl spell sse ssl svga tcpd truetype usb
> wxwindows x86 xml2 xmms xv zlib"
> 
As you can see because of profiles it adds of bunch of flags you might
not want like gnome and kde. I highly suggest that if you build a
server to disable all of the use flags and add in your make.conf only
the ones you need.

> xeno root # emerge -uDpvt world
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
> 
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [nomerge      ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r3  +X* -Xaw3d -debug +gnome
> -leim -lesstif +motif +nls
> [ebuild  N    ]  media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b  +X +gif 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]  x11-libs/openmotif-2.1.30-r5  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]  gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.8.0  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]   app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14  +nls 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.9-r1  +crypt +python 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.1.94  +nls 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r5  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.12  -tetex 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.3  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.65.1  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.77-r2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     dev-perl/SGMLSpm-1.03-r5  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      app-arch/unzip-5.50-r2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r4  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      app-text/opensp-1.5-r1  +nls 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]   x11-libs/startup-notification-0.7  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.0  -accessibility -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]  x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.2.0  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]   media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r3  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r11  -debug +nls 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    media-libs/giflib-4.1.0-r3  +X +gif 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    media-libs/tiff-3.7.0  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.8.0  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]   gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.8.0  -debug -doc +jpeg 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.0  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]    gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libgnome-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.8.1-r2  -debug -doc -gnutls
> -hal -howl -ipv6 -samba +ssl 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       app-admin/fam-2.7.0-r2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]        net-nds/portmap-5b-r9  -debug (-selinux) +tcpd 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.1  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      media-sound/esound-0.2.34  -alsa -ipv6 +tcpd 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.16  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libbonobo-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/gconf-2.8.0.1  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      gnome-base/orbit-2.12.0  -debug -doc +ssl 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.4  -debug 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       dev-util/indent-2.2.9-r1  +nls 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libglade-2.4.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.9-r1  -debug -doc +jpeg -tiff 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.14  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]        dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.15-r1  -debug -ipv6 +python
> +readline 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]        dev-util/intltool-0.31.2  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]         dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.34  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]       x11-libs/pango-1.6.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-terms/xterm-196  -Xaw3d -debug +truetype -unicode 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]  sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5  0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]   app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  0 kB
> [nomerge      ]    sys-apps/which-2.16
> [ebuild  N    ]       x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r3  -3dfx -3dnow
> +bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -hardened
> -insecure-drivers -ipv6 +mmx +nls +pam -sdk +sse -static -xprint 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]      dev-libs/atk-1.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  NS   ]       dev-libs/glib-2.4.7  -doc 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]        dev-util/pkgconfig-0.15.0  0 kB
> 
> Total size of downloads: 0 kB
> 
> --
> 
> 
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 
You are aware that you are building the complete gnome desktop because
of emacs and it's use flags ? You might want to disable gnome support
or even X support. There are plenty of use flags that aren't useful
for your needs for what I can see.

I hope this helps

Jean-Francois

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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Uwe Thiem]

On Monday 06 December 2004 18:05, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote:
> > Hi !
> >
> > First questions ....
> >
> > What do you want exactly ? Do you need X support or not ?
>
> apologies for not being clearer.  What I want is only X11 client side
> support so I can build applications that use X11.  Since it is a server
> and I will never run X11 server side, I don't want to spend the time or
> energy building the X11 server.  case in point is Emacs.  I don't want
> to be limited to what ever I can display via putty but wish to display
> Emacs sessions on my desktop X11 server.

Lemme guess. You are building a server for thing clients otherwise the 
statement above wouldn't make much sense. Alright, I will assume that.

The X applications still need all the X-related libs to link against. So you 
better build the whole X.
>
> If it is impossible to split X11 into client and server packages, then I
> would need some help figuring out why it is dying on two security
> related functions. 

So, what are those issues?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Eric S. Johansson]

Uwe Thiem wrote:

> Lemme guess. You are building a server for thing clients otherwise the 
> statement above wouldn't make much sense. Alright, I will assume that.

effectively right but there are other models where this would fit. 
think colinux systems.
> 
> The X applications still need all the X-related libs to link against. So you 
> better build the whole X.
> 
>>If it is impossible to split X11 into client and server packages, then I
>>would need some help figuring out why it is dying on two security
>>related functions. 
> 
> 
> So, what are those issues?

../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x124c): 
undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x1254): 
undefined reference to `__guard'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status


someone else claimed that emerge sync and rebuilding glibc fixed the 
problem.  trying that now.

--- eric


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RE: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Michael Kintzios]

To solve this I had to rebuild more than glibc:

 # emerge linux26-headers gcc glibc xorg-x11

It then compiled xorg without any more problems.

Regards,

Mick

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric S. Johansson [mailto:esj@harvee.org] 
Sent: 08 December 2004 02:05
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] building without X


Uwe Thiem wrote:

> Lemme guess. You are building a server for thing clients otherwise the

> statement above wouldn't make much sense. Alright, I will assume that.

effectively right but there are other models where this would fit. 
think colinux systems.
> 
> The X applications still need all the X-related libs to link against.
So you 
> better build the whole X.
> 
>>If it is impossible to split X11 into client and server packages, then
I
>>would need some help figuring out why it is dying on two security
>>related functions. 
> 
> 
> So, what are those issues?

 ./../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x
124c): 
undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
 ./../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x
1254): 
undefined reference to `__guard'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status


someone else claimed that emerge sync and rebuilding glibc fixed the 
problem.  trying that now.

--- eric


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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Jonathan Nichols]

> Might want to read this too :
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/109647
> 


That thread is my fault - and here's what's going on....

Screw X. :P I STILL can't get it off the machine, and PHP won't compile 
because it thinks it's being cross-compiled, and I have NO idea why.

My solution to that whole problem: Shoot the mail server. I'm going to 
Sacramento tonight to pick up another server that a friend had available 
as a spare.

My new make.conf USE flags will be "-*" - I'll just specify the 
necessary USE flags on the command line. Phooey on X on servers for me. :P




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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Paul Varner]

On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 14:48 -0800, Jonathan Nichols wrote:

> My new make.conf USE flags will be "-*" - I'll just specify the 
> necessary USE flags on the command line. Phooey on X on servers for me. :P

Actually you probably want USE="-* pam readline" as otherwise things can
break.  Secondly, don't put the USE flags on the command line,
use /etc/portage/package.use instead.  I would highly recommend reading
man portage, if you haven't already.

Regards,
Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Jonathan Nichols]

Paul Varner wrote:

> On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 14:48 -0800, Jonathan Nichols wrote:
> 
> 
>>My new make.conf USE flags will be "-*" - I'll just specify the 
>>necessary USE flags on the command line. Phooey on X on servers for me. :P
> 
> 
> Actually you probably want USE="-* pam readline" as otherwise things can
> break.  Secondly, don't put the USE flags on the command line,
> use /etc/portage/package.use instead.  I would highly recommend reading
> man portage, if you haven't already.

I've read the manpage so many times I can recite it in my sleep. :)

USE="-* pam readline" sounds fine too.. whatever keeps X off the server..


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Re: [gentoo-user] building without X

[Rumen Yotov]

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On пн, 2004-12-06 at 10:14 -0500, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> building a gentoo server.  only need X client lib/support but for some 
> reason, the X server is in the dependency list for emacs and xorg is 
> *failing to build*.  if I change make.conf to have -X11 the server side 
> doesn't build but then again neither does any client side support.  very 
> annoying.  googling for these errors shows nothing.  doubly annoying.
> 
> ../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x124c): 
> undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
> ../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/loader/libloader.a(xf86sym.o)(.data+0x1254): 
> undefined reference to `__guard'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> make.conf
> 
> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> MAKEOPTS="-j3"
> PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
> USE="aim emacs fastcgi imap maildir mmx mozilla pcmcia python usb gdbm 
> pam png berkdb apache2 perl readline gif qt gtk gtk2 ldap mcal ncurses 
> sse ssl -X wxwindows zlib"
> 
> your assistance is greatly appreciated.
> 
> ---eric
> 
> 
Hi,
As i've not seen any traces of you using -fstack-protector/-all in
CFLAGS or hardened, which is visible in your next mails, suggest you ask
with this info in gentoo-hardened@gentoo.org (ML) as i had such messages
quite an year ago, in the beginning when used hardened in an
old-fashioned way.
HTH
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