From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Saj1Z-0005Ou-Nk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 07:45:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36335E0851; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 07:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E63AE0845 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 07:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADF92121D for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 03:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:43:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=mC/34DB8FqCNCfZKuYBZDdbK w2I=; b=V9KzojsDFcmaEu0diFiwDiXruYuQ3C2uXsbfr1CkzcFod91HxGKauFJy XyetRcXL9QVjTSUSfs4vj0w34owjw0JJCywb6Gs5DSKVvFoZ9/hHfcc+h0MSSE5U ITzNww33I3Z+Z5YeQzUFMDKFQ3rAO6nii8nWTL6s5+3lMnPfS+I= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=mC/3 4DB8FqCNCfZKuYBZDdbKw2I=; b=gc9JStXfqhGwVIeteKZqi5g8c8Mk5MCht3g+ tj7+oUGzeaKjb+2+/NQCSngUjJiLatsBRgAcA5sp3sQsDrSimx7J9I9R+72PyJi3 2mnaSM9z2232OtmnX9jmdR2iz1YIRcwWAal3giXFIo8vsEwFx8AUEhtQJ6RNFgUC TjVMWcc= X-Sasl-enc: AMzyGpTao6FOYeMBpGapPmvNPltLWbn5X6IDP6vgEVzx 1338623020 Received: from [192.168.5.18] (unknown [83.169.5.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9BD598E018D for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 03:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FC9C425.9010301@binarywings.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:43:33 +0200 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120505 Thunderbird/10.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lockdown: free/open OS maker pays Microsoft ransom for the right to boot on users' computers References: <1338603963.12172.1.camel@moriah> In-Reply-To: <1338603963.12172.1.camel@moriah> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBA5AD16306AE861B520066FD" X-Archives-Salt: 2f1f94f0-5fac-441d-9696-7b8fdf27c72b X-Archives-Hash: 67b0fc7ea6c48ad821fed9041888a601 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBA5AD16306AE861B520066FD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 02.06.2012 04:26, schrieb William Kenworthy: > http://boingboing.net/2012/05/31/lockdown-freeopen-os-maker-p.html >=20 > and something I had not considered with the whole idea was even bootabl= e > cd's and usb keys for rescue will need the same privileges ... >=20 > BillK >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 I find this article lacking in substance. You get a much more reasonable view reading the original blog post by Matthew Garrett [1]. A few points: > "meaning that unless Microsoft has blessed your favorite flavor of > GNU/Linux or BSD, you won't be able to just install it on your > machine, or boot to it from a USB stick or CD to try it out." You don't have to be "blessed". You could call your distribution BallmerSucks and still get a certificate. You just have to register, authenticate and pay the fee. Anything else would earn them an antitrust law suite they wouldn't forget. > "There is a work-around for some systems involving a finicky and > highly technical override process, but all that means is that > installing proprietary software is easy and installing free/open > software is hard." They mean "finicky" as in "go to the BIOS and switch it off" and "some systems" as in "all x86 hardware but not ARM"? Yeah, the situation is not nice but it is not as bad as it could be. Microsoft requires that it can be switched off for x86. It forbids it for ARM, though. The article gets that bit right. Regarding the 99$ "ransom": It is a one-off payment. The article should have made that clear. Okay, enough bashing the article. Some technical question: As I understand it, if I want to make a live CD or a distribution, all I'd need to do is to use Fedora's kernel and boot loader? That's not so bad. 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