From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org)
	by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
	(envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-138666-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>)
	id 1SYRAq-0007xH-Qo
	for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 May 2012 00:17:41 +0000
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BC69E07B4;
	Sun, 27 May 2012 00:17:13 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DC9E0693
	for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 27 May 2012 00:15:55 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by yhp26 with SMTP id 26so1455617yhp.40
        for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
        h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references
         :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type
         :content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=bqwHIOpRrF7Nbmi6WNGye4cfsGIITeDTOxpEWYkSO3o=;
        b=nZO7G85dz1RDRZ7RMTdu6Ps0DKfLFpy07GO0hUHfwRxZeG6r8yIubes+WgFYJQ1pzB
         r/GsRL9QhWCGV0z7vfcksqUHfw9Xa2sHqMbaL5s/IbyAheLNavdTM99eyY4qvwQf8EPD
         dw3EEjitgMmct4VtT3LTIOFzBVgoHdM4vY/TI4kPlb3hRLMEkHogB/p+JC2BD8TSTiby
         Ir6K0wFNUpR2ry1TtBGhBdbVTY3Yc3oDtN2BIfIdPmoeBUp0S2mYh0KNyohXo6UBtr3X
         y87NWE/5VW/1khkqwpHC+sNzrPBUo+vxJ2t+TnUwyQbLOmODMjUGDl/e8/R46C6OTF3v
         NAXA==
Received: by 10.236.145.168 with SMTP id p28mr3550834yhj.4.1338077755514;
        Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-93-185.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.93.185])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i67sm31474285yhh.21.2012.05.26.17.15.53
        (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15:54 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <4FC17238.4020605@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 19:15:52 -0500
From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120523 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
References: <4FC1332A.3040703@gmail.com> <4FC1368E.7080005@gmail.com> <4FC13850.2020802@gmail.com> <20120526214001.0668531f@digimed.co.uk> <4FC15692.9070507@gmail.com> <20120526233444.670274c8@digimed.co.uk> <4FC16492.5020603@gmail.com> <20120527012105.284de0e6@khamul.example.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120527012105.284de0e6@khamul.example.com>
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Archives-Salt: f88e829c-463d-4021-8713-cc64992f6500
X-Archives-Hash: fd87b986f9829f84253897b715ae8c22

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:17:38 -0500
> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> It
>> appears that /run is sort of a temp thing while booting and just sort
>> of sticks around after getting booted, since it is there anyway.  Why
>> not use it?
> 
> No, that is incorrect.
> 
> /run is a deliberate design decision (and a damn good one that should
> always have been there IMHO) and it sticks around because it is
> supposed to. It's not an after-effect that just happens to be useful,
> it's the entire objective.
> 
> Think of it in the same way you think of /dev, /proc and /sys:
> 
> There are there, there are guaranteed to be there with certain
> behaviours, and you can't change that (neither should you want to).
> 


What I was saying tho, since it appears to be needed now, since /var may
not be mounted yet, it was created and is used during booting up.  Since
it is there, why not use it, even AFTER the system is booted.  After
all,  the files are already there since they were put there during boot
up.  No need moving them and all that when they are already created and
available.

Plus, as someone said, I think it was you in another reply, what if /var
fails to mount at all?  At that point, it still works since /run is
there already.  Since /run is on tmpfs, if it fails to mount for some
reason, you got issues already.  ;-)

I don't mind it being there, I just hope udev, or whatever else may use
it later on, doesn't get memory hungry.   Actually, maybe some other
small directories could be placed there as well.  The lock files would
be a good one to start with.  Just thinking.  May want to duck tho.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"