From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-138666-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1SYRAq-0007xH-Qo for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 May 2012 00:17:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BC69E07B4; Sun, 27 May 2012 00:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DC9E0693 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 27 May 2012 00:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhp26 with SMTP id 26so1455617yhp.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bqwHIOpRrF7Nbmi6WNGye4cfsGIITeDTOxpEWYkSO3o=; b=nZO7G85dz1RDRZ7RMTdu6Ps0DKfLFpy07GO0hUHfwRxZeG6r8yIubes+WgFYJQ1pzB r/GsRL9QhWCGV0z7vfcksqUHfw9Xa2sHqMbaL5s/IbyAheLNavdTM99eyY4qvwQf8EPD dw3EEjitgMmct4VtT3LTIOFzBVgoHdM4vY/TI4kPlb3hRLMEkHogB/p+JC2BD8TSTiby Ir6K0wFNUpR2ry1TtBGhBdbVTY3Yc3oDtN2BIfIdPmoeBUp0S2mYh0KNyohXo6UBtr3X y87NWE/5VW/1khkqwpHC+sNzrPBUo+vxJ2t+TnUwyQbLOmODMjUGDl/e8/R46C6OTF3v NAXA== Received: by 10.236.145.168 with SMTP id p28mr3550834yhj.4.1338077755514; Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-93-185.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.93.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i67sm31474285yhh.21.2012.05.26.17.15.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 May 2012 17:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC17238.4020605@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 19:15:52 -0500 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120523 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)? References: <4FC1332A.3040703@gmail.com> <4FC1368E.7080005@gmail.com> <4FC13850.2020802@gmail.com> <20120526214001.0668531f@digimed.co.uk> <4FC15692.9070507@gmail.com> <20120526233444.670274c8@digimed.co.uk> <4FC16492.5020603@gmail.com> <20120527012105.284de0e6@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20120527012105.284de0e6@khamul.example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f88e829c-463d-4021-8713-cc64992f6500 X-Archives-Hash: fd87b986f9829f84253897b715ae8c22 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:17:38 -0500 > Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It >> appears that /run is sort of a temp thing while booting and just sort >> of sticks around after getting booted, since it is there anyway. Why >> not use it? > > No, that is incorrect. > > /run is a deliberate design decision (and a damn good one that should > always have been there IMHO) and it sticks around because it is > supposed to. It's not an after-effect that just happens to be useful, > it's the entire objective. > > Think of it in the same way you think of /dev, /proc and /sys: > > There are there, there are guaranteed to be there with certain > behaviours, and you can't change that (neither should you want to). > What I was saying tho, since it appears to be needed now, since /var may not be mounted yet, it was created and is used during booting up. Since it is there, why not use it, even AFTER the system is booted. After all, the files are already there since they were put there during boot up. No need moving them and all that when they are already created and available. Plus, as someone said, I think it was you in another reply, what if /var fails to mount at all? At that point, it still works since /run is there already. Since /run is on tmpfs, if it fails to mount for some reason, you got issues already. ;-) I don't mind it being there, I just hope udev, or whatever else may use it later on, doesn't get memory hungry. Actually, maybe some other small directories could be placed there as well. The lock files would be a good one to start with. Just thinking. May want to duck tho. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"