From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1STyrO-0000n6-TS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 May 2012 17:15:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8049FE092F; Mon, 14 May 2012 17:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8488E0952 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 17:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhjj72 with SMTP id j72so5580805yhj.40 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 10:13:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uwN40V3NY0p54LNisCvvqe7dgKG2IS/8rJWIXS0p6bg=; b=JN4USaCYhGarv5MQ1phc4fAMw4aA9nyLla4AvFJaPtRDOzDLsQ71hle35DMWGQoXsh iaP/E4S5h1Bb4ybrszcu+b73CCyPJ10r62rkmfJ4+eXKwklu9AQVIryVaw1bzbCMXg+R Rs3Uq7mBCKcsSSvki4cxPJtM9UohwT33fqpJoJ+vaeg0x2c6B30CKpNK3EP7OafQJQWh BsuQgJLoNbBTvr2WFv1GEaYR1uyamBXvdIf8eQbO3rubEzQ414pJ2nOx/lYSzU8iM147 UL+TZ5gZOZg0cMLYDHvGmKluaSbuE6rivr0TL/PonDw21EFMYuQWzyRjcLeyD0YklVx/ H6lw== Received: by 10.101.73.20 with SMTP id a20mr2724461anl.88.1337015601172; Mon, 14 May 2012 10:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-147-220.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.147.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r9sm29816298anl.0.2012.05.14.10.13.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 May 2012 10:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FB13D2E.10606@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120510 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails References: <4FAA2F0D.8080900@gmail.com> <4FAA595A.4040202@libertytrek.org> <20120510162012.74db0575@unet.univie.ac.at> <20120514021324.GA26071@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <335395246A21454687CDAE9ED74902EB@mic2> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d9ff9993-7dc4-48dc-b849-7937fc6a29c6 X-Archives-Hash: c21a66a2c89437f6ab6d31404707e6eb Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, May 14 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: > >> in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message >> immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes >> huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. >> where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found >> more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend >> top posting. >> but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me >> to change my habits. >> obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from >> now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. > > You have forgotten that gentoo-user is a valuable archive site. > I keep many old msgs to use much later. At that point a top to bottom > reading order is preferred. > > Moreover, those who are most helpful here all prefer bottom (or in-line) > posting. If you shun the wishes of a majority of the group and a vast > majority of the most-helpful users, you fate is not flames but > "ignoredom". That seems to be a poor idea. > > Your call > allan > > I agree. I have read even on here, been a while tho, where a email address is blacklisted. So OP, if you top post often enough then later post a question, the person with the answer may never see your question hence you will likely get no reply. I have one person blacklisted myself. I have no clue if they come here or not. It goes straight to delete. I think it bypasses the trash even. For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters on this list. I will admit, if just Neil and Alan ignore your posts, you got issues. They are two VERY knowledgeable, and more importantly, helpful people. Most of their posts are helping others too, unlike some of mine. Another thing, they have been on this mailing for a long time and they don't like top posting either if memory serves me well. Me, I will forgive if it is a cell phone thingy that can't be helped. Otherwise, after a couple times, I'm not scrolling all over the place to try to figure out what order the posts are in and all that. I may not blacklist but I will hit the "next" button. OP. You be well advised to reconsider. Other wise, you will be on the forums asking for help and in my opinion, this mailing list is the best place for help. Lifes full of choices tho. Some good, some bad. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"