From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SSGfU-0006dS-D0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 09 May 2012 23:51:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3477E09DA; Wed, 9 May 2012 23:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFC8E097B for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 23:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbuo19 with SMTP id uo19so1144450obb.40 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 16:49:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SJcm3itxbpcRV8tSMMb+GSw9+t1tkuX6Eu5gurzW3+o=; b=Xq5Ev8nOjeQ2LMaeWX22kA3Z1iSBVn4Pk/kp6Ks5/z6JZc1FGUfTJ+Rk4rdcgktRlD PvJs23uyWcdumXVgbQOEIj4BAaBNhf+qnE7GKC9HE1uULSw92q1lP1OvfBKVFgvL4BAr z1sYwloXQW9DGW4GvspP5uMdRzWOOcILsin0Jd+XJqYC4JRHodZFY8JLFpzk+uy2IgkF O4SJgg8QtyuOACP0HtDIaA3RK2m1xrFHcRvrbzYfjoOrwleXZBy44gpVC0uPrfP763Sp f10rphwB2xzsg2KNFpiCUIpB9ulmspZ71mvdR10sZsBMi0smwLBfVqlf3lbl/gqA8pSv sQrQ== Received: by 10.182.159.41 with SMTP id wz9mr2932800obb.69.1336607380435; Wed, 09 May 2012 16:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-66-173.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.66.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vp14sm3545015oeb.5.2012.05.09.16.49.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 May 2012 16:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FAB0291.5050602@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 18:49:37 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120508 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? References: <4FAA2F0D.8080900@gmail.com> <20120509112543.6021e1f8@khamul.example.com> <4FAA3E79.5010007@gmail.com> <20120509232806.495276ed@khamul.example.com> <4FAAEEB4.6090800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9c395e7b-1994-42ad-ac70-4c71c0b6c6b9 X-Archives-Hash: ce17458d0f1e8f01a7b31ea621c697b2 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dale wrote: >> It doesn't matter what brand you go with > > Especially true since there are only 2 companies actually making > consumer hard drives anymore: WD and Seagate. Both of them seem to > know what they are doing, for the most part... > > Some hard drives fail at the beginning of their life. All hard drives > fail at the end of their life. :) > > I'm about to show my age so please close your eyes. Pretty please. -_- Way back in the stone age, there was a guy that released a curve for electronics life. The failure rate is high at the beginning, especially for the first few minutes, then falls to about nothing, then after several years it goes back up again. At the beginning of the curve, the thought was it could be a bad solder job, bad components or some other problem. At the other end was just when age kicked in. Sweat spot is in the middle. I try to keep these things in mind. Example. I bought a TV a couple years ago. My old TV was about 20 years old and the power supply had some sort of issue. It was either a diode getting weak or a capacitor was going bad. It had the little sine waves going up the screen. It was hard to see but was visible when the screen was all the same colour. Age was creeping up on this thing. Anyway, when my DirecTv box went out, it was years old too, I went to get me a new one. While there I saw this nice LCD TV sitting on a shelf and I might add, it looked so lonesome. lol It was marked down about half price. Hmmm, was it repaired or what? I asked a guy what the deal was. He said it was their display model. My first thought was that this could have already went through the first part of the curve. So, I asked how long it was on display. He said about 9 or 10 months. He thinks I am buying used and I'm thinking that this thing has already went through the bad part of its life. I walked out with a $800 TV for about $400. I think I got the better deal myself. Most of the drives, or other electronics, that I have either die under warranty or die when I am past caring. It has been a good long while since I had to return anything under warranty. I'm done showing my age, open your eyes again. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"