From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SDMzP-0006S3-CE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:34:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29B6CE0D2E; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29CDE0D56 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggni4 with SMTP id i4so2256402ggn.40 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:32:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nNbHMJuZBp0eITu2LvTcfxHL8PzPXzRMvsrFWozuc4k=; b=cQ96Qzm3gqvZzjUTRkagYlKRObkU3JGzDpFzSOhHvDCMB+Z9n9DTsBj67d8XqOOAqn mNCSGaK/8Yo3By80mesnaiXQpBUylcpxRPjXRYa1s6dkKT52x+avfYKfZ4YxyKjw9Zjh Z0yS9aZ//uRyFhI6B0CFxCa+Lig+KkVfDqfsJGhPhFhWaEF1+lPOjBv/Ud5hL9ZDi80c +aXGusLmqKEu21cY2J6KleqiM94bpUUqiX1xCJmTRWkKinQ+sTU7M/Voje/ZEbq3vvLW Me1ikXj9qkSig9aRNQOueVmXo5AOG1LQF+KX8UtvS6X6q0JOgzV4rvC9wsiDX4OHaAy/ rO2w== Received: by 10.236.75.170 with SMTP id z30mr9613985yhd.5.1333056726088; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-214-242.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.214.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f40sm9549026ani.16.2012.03.29.14.32.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F74D4D3.2010807@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:32:03 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120325 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs? References: <20120327223544.GC3437@acm.acm> <20120328005520.140b8fd6@khamul.example.com> <20120328140132.GA3546@acm.acm> <20120328155636.5296a82d@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20120328170733.GA27818@acm.acm> <4F73C0B6.9090002@gmail.com> <4F73CB46.3080009@gmail.com> <4F74C2FE.3030704@gmail.com> <20120329211130.GD27585@ns1.bonedaddy.net> In-Reply-To: <20120329211130.GD27585@ns1.bonedaddy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 8a8351f4-e488-4e4b-b8ea-00e67afa0db1 X-Archives-Hash: 7e56035c09aa43873a47063c1bbf7d5f Todd Goodman wrote: > * Dale [120329 16:22]: >> Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: >> >>> Can you try doing >>> >>> dracut -H /boot/initramfs- >>> >>> ?? >>> >>> The man page from dracut says that -H is for the "current host" >>> instead of a "generic host". Maybe the "generic host" configuration i= s >>> messing up something with su that your actual host configuration >>> needs. >>> >>> I use -H. As I have ben saying, my initramfs it's pretty up in sync >>> with my normal system. >>> >>> Regards. >> >> >> Notice, I make the distinction between Console and Konsole by making t= he >> first letter capitalized. It kind of gets confusing. :/ >> >> I had to reboot so I made a new init thingy with the -H switch. It >> works in Console but nothing root works in KDE. I get the same error. >> Heck, Konsole won't even try to come up much less ask for my password. >> Krusader asks for password and says that su is not in the path. This = is >> similar to what I got when I was in a Console too. >> >> So, boot without init thingy, everything works fine. Boot with the in= it >> thingy, I can't access things in KDE as root. All I do is reboot. I >> don't change or edit anything other than selecting a different entry i= n >> grub. >> >> I use Konsole when I emerge and such as that. I use Krusader, since >> Konqueror developed a bug, to edit config files. I don't care to swit= ch >> to a Console to emerge something or edit a config file. This is not >> going to work for me long term. >> >> Also, keep in mind, I boot the EXACT same kernel whether I use the ini= t >> thingy or not. All I do is remove the stuff the init thingy needs to >> work. >> >> Go figure. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >=20 > My dracut initramfs (created with just hostonly=3Dyes changed from the > config installed by Gentoo) is quite "heavy" and starts up udevd in > the initramfs. That along with other things that happen in there could > possibly be leading to your permission problems. >=20 > If I were you, I'd manually create an initramfs the way that Neil has > mentioned that simply mounts /usr and then does a switch_root and see i= f > you still have problems. >=20 > It's really not too hard if you can muddle through simple shell scripts= . >=20 > Todd >=20 I already tried making one from scratch and also making the one inside the kernel. Both belly flopped and left me with nothing but errors. It never even tried to leave the init thingy environment. I think I posted them a good long while back but no clue what they were know. I just moved on to what was supposed to be "easy". Yea, right. :/ My concern is this, if it is this hard for me to get one working, if it ever breaks, I'm screwed. I know myself pretty well, if it breaks and I can't figure it out, I'll be looking for a install CD/DVD and fix it on a grand scale. This is how I got to Gentoo. I couldn't get Mandrake to work right and be stable, I switched. Well, it's supper time here. Maybe that will help, me at least. lol Dale :-) :-) P. S. Canek, will post in a bit for yours. --=20 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--quiet-build=3Dn"