Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

[Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>]

Todd Goodman wrote:
> * Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> [120329 16:22]:
>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>> Can you try doing
>>>
>>> dracut -H /boot/initramfs-<kernel version here>
>>>
>>> ??
>>>
>>> The man page from dracut says that -H is for the "current host"
>>> instead of a "generic host". Maybe the "generic host" configuration is
>>> messing up something with su that your actual host configuration
>>> needs.
>>>
>>> I use -H. As I have ben saying, my initramfs it's pretty up in sync
>>> with my normal system.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> Notice, I make the distinction between Console and Konsole by making the
>> first letter capitalized.  It kind of gets confusing.  :/
>>
>> I had to reboot so I made a new init thingy with the -H switch.  It
>> works in Console but nothing root works in KDE.  I get the same error.
>> Heck, Konsole won't even try to come up much less ask for my password.
>> Krusader asks for password and says that su is not in the path.  This is
>> similar to what I got when I was in a Console too.
>>
>> So, boot without init thingy, everything works fine.  Boot with the init
>> thingy, I can't access things in KDE as root.  All I do is reboot.  I
>> don't change or edit anything other than selecting a different entry in
>> grub.
>>
>> I use Konsole when I emerge and such as that.  I use Krusader, since
>> Konqueror developed a bug, to edit config files.  I don't care to switch
>> to a Console to emerge something or edit a config file.  This is not
>> going to work for me long term.
>>
>> Also, keep in mind, I boot the EXACT same kernel whether I use the init
>> thingy or not.  All I do is remove the stuff the init thingy needs to
>> work.
>>
>> Go figure.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
> 
> My dracut initramfs (created with just hostonly=yes changed from the
> config installed by Gentoo) is quite "heavy" and starts up udevd in
> the initramfs.  That along with other things that happen in there could
> possibly be leading to your permission problems.
> 
> If I were you, I'd manually create an initramfs the way that Neil has
> mentioned that simply mounts /usr and then does a switch_root and see if
> you still have problems.
> 
> It's really not too hard if you can muddle through simple shell scripts.
> 
> Todd
> 

I already tried making one from scratch and also making the one inside
the kernel.  Both belly flopped and left me with nothing but errors.  It
never even tried to leave the init thingy environment.  I think I posted
them a good long while back but no clue what they were know.  I just
moved on to what was supposed to be "easy".  Yea, right.  :/

My concern is this, if it is this hard for me to get one working, if it
ever breaks, I'm screwed.  I know myself pretty well, if it breaks and I
can't figure it out, I'll be looking for a install CD/DVD and fix it on
a grand scale.  This is how I got to Gentoo.  I couldn't get Mandrake to
work right and be stable, I switched.

Well, it's supper time here.  Maybe that will help, me at least.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S. Canek,  will post in a bit for yours.

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