From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SCf0y-0001UR-1H for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:37:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E589E0B28; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DD4E0B12 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggni4 with SMTP id i4so417795ggn.40 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:35:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WW8MKPEvsS8o3sDv52WGGMDNRz3Cd3UWACDHf1gLvfE=; b=UZXCoBw/Oqkx5a18HZQNIZ114q15ps5H22Gm/GFCR0LNhCtKKUyPLN2NzA4b34Tz2J GFR8IlLSt/5Ces2OQ6halr5jDUmuj77ofrAgZTW00NHgO/pG5lVFqw/pUj7ushRblNZ7 gnlTcXzg99mWLB+tYAGNZnjg+9XU64TKSj1nox12Df0krui3TzUjPcFHFfgVOoX+2giK u9yw08hZ+XDq7Uk44hbMsSUWFc1iEuH6tWYHnvyKX5A9o2xyNkhCnMD1Dmzcn7MLvXBe h+E4r6NbdOQP24Li3aVHscZTUmrl6uypi0Mw6bbpFaTHF75ykFwD9SLdtrEEImcKvpif M2Qw== Received: by 10.236.184.129 with SMTP id s1mr28089621yhm.21.1332887738174; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-214-242.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.214.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o41sm2892388yhj.7.2012.03.27.15.35.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F7240B6.4000702@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:35:34 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120325 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought References: <1332844604.4130.0@numa-i> <4F71BE44.3080206@kutulu.org> <01de01cd0c26$98088c40$c819a4c0$@kutulu.org> <4F71E12F.7060108@gmail.com> <000901cd0c40$0a137520$1e3a5f60$@kutulu.org> <4F720751.3020900@gmail.com> <4F72149D.7060605@darkmetatron.de> <4F721D30.8090400@gmail.com> <4F722735.90500@gmail.com> <4F72348A.2060407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e0399bac-5aef-4907-afed-5fc562ce1504 X-Archives-Hash: 55fe4435460462f6266f40ff37bf2585 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Dale wrote: > >> >> Right now, if Gentoo fails to boot because of the init thingy, I have no >> idea how to fix it. None at all. > > I understand. My question is why are you even using the initrd? > There's no requirement to use it today, at least on stable. There's > not even a discussion I've seen that says we _ever_ have to use it if > we don't use a separate /usr, so I'm not understanding where the > problem is. > > This is just my 2 cents, but assuming you have a lot of disk space why > not do a second Gentoo install, use initrd there to learn about it, > and just STOP doing updates to your current environment. If you don't > update it then it's not going to fail due to an update, right? > > I'm not picking on you or anything like that. It just seems to me that > you're worrying about the worst instead of doing the easiest. Let's > let the heavy lifters do some work, watch people get through it, and > only then decide what to do. No reason to cause problems with our > systems. I've masked a few packages and am being careful about > updates. > > Good luck, > Mark > > Right now it won't be a problem but when I get my set up like I want it, it will be. I'm trying to learn it on a system that doesn't care right now. As posted elsewhere, if I boot with the init thingy then I can't su to root. My solution right now was to boot without the init thingy. However, if I get to where I can set up my system like I want, that would be a problem for me. This is holding me back from doing several things on my system and one of them is using LVM for everything but / and /boot. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"