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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:46:45 -0500
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Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sebastian Be=C3=9Fler wrote:
>>> On 27.03.2012 20:30, Dale wrote:
>>>> May be trying Kubuntu here pretty soon.
>>>
>>> Be prepared for hard times using Kubuntu as it is now no major part o=
f
>>> the Ubuntu family anymore. That means much less money and much less
>>> manpower. And if this issue with a init-thingy bothers you, Kubuntu w=
ill
>>> be living hell. As long as (K)Ubuntu works everything is fine, but in
>>> case of an error you just can't fix it. Everything is close tight to
>>> everything else. Change on thing and all fails.
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, based on my experience with Mandrake back in the day, the init
>> thingy is going to break for me here just like it did there.  I'm
>> thinking about Kubuntu but I may actually decide on something else.
>> Thing is, it appears Gentoo is going to break my system so I may as we=
ll
>> find something that I can install lots quicker to fix what is broke.
>> Kubuntu is just one option.  I installed it for my brother and it work=
s
>> fine, SO FAR.
>>
>> I may be jumping out of the frying pan into a fire but I think I need =
to
>> at least try something else.  This is very true if I continue to have
>> issues with the init thingy and not being able to su to root.  I know
>> how to use a console but I only use it when needed.  That's not very
>> often and I sort of like it that way.
>>
>> Barring that, I could just put everything on / and just hope nothing
>> goes bonkers and fills it up with useless errors or something in the
>> messages file.  I have had this happen before and /var was full, I mea=
n
>> FULL.  I divide things so that I don't get conquered when it hits the =
fan.
>>
>> One thing about Linux, it has a LOT of options.
>>
>> Oh, there is talk of moving more things on -dev.  If I didn't know
>> better, I'd think someone was trying to just change Gentoo until it
>> doesn't work any more.  I dunno.   Maybe I'm ready for a Apple now.  o=
_O
>=20
> The reason I like Gentoo (and why I've moved so much stuff to it) is
> because it lets me get in and have much finer _optional_ control over
> many things with minimal fuss. Ubuntu-derived distributions make it
> very, very difficult to change very, very many things, while retaining
> an update-stable setup. As long as you don't have to stray to far from
> their One True Way, Ubuntu (or most Linux distros, actually) should be
> fine. The annoying thing about Ubuntu is how their One True Way
> changes dramatically every six months to a year.
>=20


I like, even love, Gentoo.  Thing is, if it gets to where it doesn't
work like it should for me, there's no point in me using it.  If I
wanted a OS that doesn't work well for me, I'd be buying M$'s crap.
Hey, it does install fairly fast but it is pretty crappy.  LOL

I have said this about meeting a new lady, time tells.  If I get to the
point where I have to use a init thingy and I can't get one to work,
Gentoo is no longer for me.  Working is a must have thing for my OS.  I
don't mind putting in the effort to have a great install or putting in
the effort to update it but it has to boot and work.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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