From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-136842-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1SCdK1-00029S-Vt for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E69C4E0767; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A50EE0741 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggni4 with SMTP id i4so340076ggn.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:46:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mua21pHB//qMBmfxBluqXth18QHnc81lmjiVJEkSps4=; b=CQEEjF/9LMuah7HK+Vhrq9WHLuajKVXOna5s3sQhHWu1wQFSU5uKI2k1oGjIxdpZe6 rvrCg6cyE3g0S3B8QTb4skmxc/xt7T3/Cflu6oKmqXrkthOEUCAg/XXx0dZyeeeMP2G0 JKhXqcphLVTmpVeCeO2XehkwDhPi0E9rg7rjEk0VrZyPpMETiY8ripbRhggdsaFP3Uil j57YQTl6O/LUhjT6CyT8h4hx/htkhvNG8Oqce24UNNlZZsK/H16ujHov0GQ3W0EtJP0W P60dA1sK1P0p1nWG8V/jZ8eypWKP88EZz8sr5QPnYSGp13a5HCItjn1d1kr4iMHYKJlk 5nOQ== Received: by 10.101.72.11 with SMTP id z11mr4324197ank.25.1332881208673; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-214-242.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.214.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a24sm1266249ana.10.2012.03.27.13.46.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F722735.90500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:46:45 -0500 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120325 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought References: <1332844604.4130.0@numa-i> <4F71BE44.3080206@kutulu.org> <CA+czFiB=9Z_ny4Q8Ro_pkKJJnJEjOc3eZRO4e5-=JHHJzf1imQ@mail.gmail.com> <01de01cd0c26$98088c40$c819a4c0$@kutulu.org> <4F71E12F.7060108@gmail.com> <000901cd0c40$0a137520$1e3a5f60$@kutulu.org> <4F720751.3020900@gmail.com> <4F72149D.7060605@darkmetatron.de> <4F721D30.8090400@gmail.com> <CA+czFiBhVRjdmB74_4tA6ZVyrJhzELnVEMPq96m1NJwHJPTD0Q@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA+czFiBhVRjdmB74_4tA6ZVyrJhzELnVEMPq96m1NJwHJPTD0Q@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: abdb279b-5851-4262-b09d-be0e75fa77cf X-Archives-Hash: 6a9bce32cc42262eb49e5a1f3e507d8d Michael Mol wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sebastian Be=C3=9Fler wrote: >>> On 27.03.2012 20:30, Dale wrote: >>>> May be trying Kubuntu here pretty soon. >>> >>> Be prepared for hard times using Kubuntu as it is now no major part o= f >>> the Ubuntu family anymore. That means much less money and much less >>> manpower. And if this issue with a init-thingy bothers you, Kubuntu w= ill >>> be living hell. As long as (K)Ubuntu works everything is fine, but in >>> case of an error you just can't fix it. Everything is close tight to >>> everything else. Change on thing and all fails. >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >> >> >> Well, based on my experience with Mandrake back in the day, the init >> thingy is going to break for me here just like it did there. I'm >> thinking about Kubuntu but I may actually decide on something else. >> Thing is, it appears Gentoo is going to break my system so I may as we= ll >> find something that I can install lots quicker to fix what is broke. >> Kubuntu is just one option. I installed it for my brother and it work= s >> fine, SO FAR. >> >> I may be jumping out of the frying pan into a fire but I think I need = to >> at least try something else. This is very true if I continue to have >> issues with the init thingy and not being able to su to root. I know >> how to use a console but I only use it when needed. That's not very >> often and I sort of like it that way. >> >> Barring that, I could just put everything on / and just hope nothing >> goes bonkers and fills it up with useless errors or something in the >> messages file. I have had this happen before and /var was full, I mea= n >> FULL. I divide things so that I don't get conquered when it hits the = fan. >> >> One thing about Linux, it has a LOT of options. >> >> Oh, there is talk of moving more things on -dev. If I didn't know >> better, I'd think someone was trying to just change Gentoo until it >> doesn't work any more. I dunno. Maybe I'm ready for a Apple now. o= _O >=20 > The reason I like Gentoo (and why I've moved so much stuff to it) is > because it lets me get in and have much finer _optional_ control over > many things with minimal fuss. Ubuntu-derived distributions make it > very, very difficult to change very, very many things, while retaining > an update-stable setup. As long as you don't have to stray to far from > their One True Way, Ubuntu (or most Linux distros, actually) should be > fine. The annoying thing about Ubuntu is how their One True Way > changes dramatically every six months to a year. >=20 I like, even love, Gentoo. Thing is, if it gets to where it doesn't work like it should for me, there's no point in me using it. If I wanted a OS that doesn't work well for me, I'd be buying M$'s crap. Hey, it does install fairly fast but it is pretty crappy. LOL I have said this about meeting a new lady, time tells. If I get to the point where I have to use a init thingy and I can't get one to work, Gentoo is no longer for me. Working is a must have thing for my OS. I don't mind putting in the effort to have a great install or putting in the effort to update it but it has to boot and work. Dale :-) :-) --=20 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--quiet-build=3Dn"