From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-136823-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1SCYeR-00059E-GH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:49:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88B4DE07F6; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1960EE030B for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhjj72 with SMTP id j72so37098yhj.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:48:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jGjXhefMLlE3UUpdUU9WX/oZoi1Wj9UBz00Ov7DhwM0=; b=lMgSM4GeU/x9Z66fXWVxiLpgnRyVq+30wfAMPUVZDSxtC+6vH6PY1zo/xrZNo+0Tnd udbPansXuVuRMR/+8cYOqF/RpiAXkjpqO1706TXHBj3sdP9NQQc3cyUKYoBedq80GYnn gENrxZcf4HNTC6sW4adIGvSmv0kfAfYPJOlEBXMK6EEKAeO2rAK/PfbT60iNn9JhCV5z wRMDPmxEaSxn+svBToAZYaQmGMAVZa6fiBGYR0bXLGer7PypEo6slvpWe45nJpjy5JcM mOU3/TqDhTk4xrX/f5NO/oEawmb6OiVESmVsA+UjSgyjebCgBunJRuc2QK/xCsJOQ/7W aHLw== Received: by 10.236.9.35 with SMTP id 23mr26568039yhs.41.1332863282411; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-214-242.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.214.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k35sm269173ani.3.2012.03.27.08.48.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F71E12F.7060108@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:47:59 -0500 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120325 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought References: <1332844604.4130.0@numa-i> <4F71BE44.3080206@kutulu.org> <CA+czFiB=9Z_ny4Q8Ro_pkKJJnJEjOc3eZRO4e5-=JHHJzf1imQ@mail.gmail.com> <01de01cd0c26$98088c40$c819a4c0$@kutulu.org> In-Reply-To: <01de01cd0c26$98088c40$c819a4c0$@kutulu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c447e2dd-609d-480f-be6b-2f775e816ac8 X-Archives-Hash: b65e45a996c93e1af079791c9f5bdb6a Mike Edenfield wrote: >>> If this is all you need, I recommend you use dracut. The default >>> installation (no use-flags or optional modules) will product an >>> initramfs that loads whatever you current rootfs and /usr partitions are. >>> >>> I've been working on updating the wiki with more detailed >>> instructions; for your case what's there now ought to be plenty: >>> >>> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Dracut >> >> Dracut is masked on ~amd64. Bugs me, as I'd rather use something like that >> than genkernel (I very much like building my own kernels; it helps me keep >> things lean, and keeps me familiar with the capabilities of current and future >> systems). But now I have to find time to learn how to use Genkernel. >> >> If we're going to be shoved into tight space like this, I'd be nice if the "you >> can just use $x" tools work on stable. I've got three previously-working >> systems at home I can't risk rebooting right now because of this udev+/usr >> nonsense. I almost invariably put /usr and /home on top of LVM, RAID or >> both. > > I'm pretty sure that a stable Dracut is a prerequisite for a stable udev-182+. Hopefully with more people taking interest in using an initramfs it will stabilize quickly. It's working for me on all of the systems I'm tried it, so I'm going to try switching a couple of servers at work over to using it. But none of them have anything particularly complex (no net boots, for example) so I don't know how much of a test case they'll be :) > > --Mike > I'm still trying to figure out why my dracut init thingy isn't working right. If I use the init thingy, I can't su to root from a user. If I don't use the init thingy, I can su just fine. By the way, I boot the exact same kernel either way I boot. So, the fix doesn't seem to work for me and I have no plans of using genkernel. I dunno. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"