From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-136372-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1S8BBJ-0003tF-Jf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:57:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7BFDE0BDE; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26455E07D0 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DBE2E8057 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:56:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=libertytrek.org; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s= libertytrek.org; b=UEzBkpIdGVlciWKFFVFmTNzxx1tQkPon29dsWfJPPdrxB PKWBq3rwHIRAMb29lsGKY+HrVMvQvW5R5ZUHY9lIRE2OvZhNuHhmAG4IWgfAuhas rOdYZ9K/jBW+FFxT+2RyrEPkMAGceYIQdyvgZuaifkOxT/+fCgu4+yAnhE3BLA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=r4OeucrmM64L+K6i06PMO65VK/o=; b=CWqtS+GW07nZ PWWiEnrIu2J9ZjfXB94ja2pLN0jLDF/MNHzjhZbHL7z8YYn8slGw5vc1EpxWIyEK Lth16Bqbcg7ZcLWPPow0OTMi6QVPBTR1dxbuFvS/3dMvfg2YC/eYkTQJTzSYWPCe uxqzuThw/hZwyKDKB0PuZo8CEzuQawg= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (50-76-228-201-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.76.228.201]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a51.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27EBC2E806A for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 06:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F61F4FC.1090005@libertytrek.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:56:12 -0400 From: Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. References: <CAMgZwF2PUjug-Uxmf0YKGvtJVMCTC9zXm4S3vzudS5NzE1xNZg@mail.gmail.com> <CA+czFiDxEWmvXjsvi0ViTd3teVYjFC633m4MN1eNDV=5O2DmwQ@mail.gmail.com> <292166434.606817.1331577566543.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> <4F5E853F.8060404@gmail.com> <017301cd00bd$24bce2f0$6e36a8d0$@kutulu.org> <CAA2qdGVtsZ2m_2tA2F==3r5gpk3XjirB5f_ptH08=p-uB7taBg@mail.gmail.com> <20120313091356.5a947032@khamul.example.com> <07ed01cd01fd$ea6c6b60$bf454220$@kutulu.org> <CAA2qdGXJCYE11CGF2D43YGtUphpoQY9Zcu66NSdBcngYYiYofg@mail.gmail.com> <005701cd022f$e8228fb0$b867af10$@kutulu.org> <20120315010310.GC32691@waltdnes.org> <4F615834.2050608@gmail.com> <20120315091356.62d6714c@digimed.co.uk> <4F61E382.7060803@libertytrek.org> <20120315130512.6f19efd1@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120315130512.6f19efd1@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0ed282db-e96d-40a1-b5aa-4b98dedb78d6 X-Archives-Hash: 9797bbd55c7b25ce3262cd467f593667 On 2012-03-15 9:05 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:41:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >>> That's why I build the initramfs into the kernel and not as a separate >>> file. If I do something to break the initramfs I just boot the >>> previous kernel knowing it will still work. >> >> Ok, time to show my ignorance... >> >> How would I know if I am using an initramfs, and if I was, whether it >> was built into the kernel or not? > Well, you built the kernel, so you should know. Well, since I basically just used a kernel .config that someone else originally set up, copying .config over and running make oldconfig when upgrading over the years, stumbling through any changes that broke anything (like when some changes to iptables broke my firewall back around 2.6.2x), I really didn't know - but I just confirmed that it is indeed built into my kernels, so, now, how do I know if I am *using* it or not? > Technically, we are all using an initramfs as all 2.6/3 kernels mount an > initramfs when they load. If does not contain an init script, they fall > back to the legacy behaviour. So, how do I know whether or not 'it contains an init script'? I know, my ignorance is confounding... > See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ramfs-rootfs-initramfs.txt Read it, thanks, but it didn't help me answer the above...